
 Undisclosed Agents Firefighter Podcast Undisclosed Agents Podcast #28 Cody Cavin & Pat Case - BA Shields
 Jul 8, 2024 
 Cody Cavin and Pat Case, founders of BA Shields, share their journey from EMS to creating firefighter equipment. They discuss the evolution of BA Shields, patent challenges, product testing, and the significance of personalized designs. They also delve into the challenges of starting a firefighter-owned business, navigating the patent process, managing growth during COVID-19, building camaraderie within the firefighting community, and expressing gratitude for customer support. 
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 Intro 
 00:00 • 2min 
 Firefighters' Journey in the Fire Service 
 01:38 • 18min 
 Memorable Product Testing with Former Secret Service Agents 
 19:49 • 2min 
 Evolution of Protective Film for Firefighters 
 21:51 • 13min 
 Evolution and Significance of BA Shields in the Fire Service 
 34:59 • 17min 
 Navigating the Patent Process and Business Growth Without Debt 
 52:14 • 2min 
 Managing Growth and Efficiency in Manufacturing 
 54:25 • 3min 
 Building Brotherhood and Camaraderie in Firefighter-Owned Businesses 
 57:44 • 34min 
 Customer Communication and Gratitude for BA Shields 
 01:31:14 • 2min 
