Hey there Legal Rebels! 👋

I’m excited to share with you the second episode of the 2025 season of the LawDroid Manifesto podcast, where I will be continuing to interview key legal innovators to learn how they do what they do. I think you’re going to enjoy this one!

If you want to understand how AI and technology are transforming legal research and practice, while maintaining the critical "when you have to be right" standard that lawyers depend on, you need to listen to this episode. Ken Crutchfield brings over 30 years of experience at the intersection of law and technology, from his early days as a 19-year-old intern to his current role leading legal markets at Wolters Kluwer, where he's helping shape how lawyers will use AI to serve their clients better.

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Revolutionizing Legal Services: From Engineering to Legal Tech Leadership

Ken Crutchfield brings over 30 years of experience at the convergence of software and information technology to his role as VP and General Manager of Legal Markets at Wolters Kluwer. Starting as an electrical engineering student with dreams of becoming an astronaut, Ken's journey led him through positions at industry giants like LexisNexis, Bloomberg, and Thomson Reuters. Today, he leads Wolters Kluwer's VitalLaw platform, which recently integrated AI capabilities to transform legal research and compliance.

In our conversation, Ken shares fascinating insights about his early days in Dayton, Ohio - once the Silicon Valley of its time - and how his unique background bridging technology and business shaped his approach to legal innovation. He discusses Wolters Kluwer's measured approach to AI integration, emphasizing the importance of human oversight and trusted content in legal research.

The discussion explores the rapid adoption of generative AI in legal practice, with Ken sharing surprising statistics from Wolters Kluwer's Future Ready Lawyer report - 76% of in-house lawyers and 68% of law firm lawyers now use AI weekly. He provides valuable perspective on how law firms can leverage these tools while maintaining accuracy and client trust. (Click on the button below to download the report).

Most importantly, Ken offers a vision for the future of legal services where technology enhances access to justice and enables more efficient dispute resolution. His practical insights on problem-solving and staying adaptable in a rapidly changing legal landscape make this episode essential listening for legal professionals navigating the AI revolution.

The Skinny

Ken Crutchfield's insights demonstrate how established legal tech providers are thoughtfully integrating AI into their platforms while maintaining their core commitment to accuracy and reliability. His experience bridging technology and legal services offers valuable perspective on the industry's transformation.

Key Takeaways

* The legal industry has seen unprecedented technology adoption, accelerated by both COVID-19 and the emergence of generative AI

* Successful AI implementation in legal research requires a balance of innovation and trusted content, with human oversight remaining crucial

* Law firms should focus on solving specific client problems rather than chasing technology for its own sake

* The billable hour model will evolve rather than disappear, with AI enabling new value-based fee arrangements

* Access to capital and regulatory frameworks remain key challenges in legal innovation

Notable Quotes

* "76% of in-house lawyers and 68% of law firm lawyers use ChatGPT once a week, which I find very amazing." - Ken Crutchfield (20:09)

* "I think one of the things that I've noticed, I remember back in the day when calculators were coming out and people were like, oh my gosh, if you don't learn long division, how are you ever gonna be able to do math if you rely on this calculator?" - Ken Crutchfield (32:45)

* "I could understand what the marketing people were saying and the business people and what the technology people were saying. And there were very few people that could actually translate between." - Ken Crutchfield (09:03)

* "I think it wasn't that long ago that people were working through bankers boxes, looking for documents, and that was how you cut your teeth as an attorney. So I think there's going to be some interesting things, especially for like law schools that start to teach how to leverage these AI technologies." - Ken Crutchfield (33:14)

* "The reality is there are very few attorneys that I've ever come across, even in small real estate transaction organizations that aren't busy. So there's a lot of work to be done. There's a lot with access to justice." - Ken Crutchfield (40:39)

Clips

Father's Visionary Influence and Unconventional Thinking

Advice for Legal Professionals on AI

AI: Not the Ultimate Solution, Just Another Tool

Growing Up in Dayton, Ohio

Ken's perspective on the future of legal services, particularly his vision of AI-enabled dispute resolution and automated claims handling, offers a practical roadmap for how technology can improve access to justice while enhancing legal practice efficiency. His emphasis on problem-solving and maintaining human oversight while embracing innovation provides a balanced approach for legal professionals navigating technological change.

Closing Thoughts

Ken Crutchfield's story powerfully illustrates the evolution of legal technology - from the early days of online research to today's AI revolution. What stands out to me is his balanced perspective on AI adoption. While he's clearly excited about AI's potential to transform legal practice, he emphasizes that it's just another tool in the toolkit, not a silver bullet.

His insight about law firms needing to "lean in" to AI and make their client relationships "stickier" by providing AI-powered tools really resonates. It's not about fighting against AI adoption, but rather embracing it strategically to enhance client service while maintaining that critical human expertise.

I was particularly struck by Ken's emphasis on focusing on problems rather than solutions or technology. In the rush to adopt AI, it's easy to get caught up in the hype. But as Ken notes, success comes from understanding your clients' needs first and then applying the right tools to solve their problems.

The stat that really jumps out is that 76% of in-house lawyers and 68% of law firm lawyers are using generative AI weekly. That's remarkable adoption in just two years. But what's more interesting is how Wolters Kluwer is approaching this - not with flashy promises, but with a measured "when you have to be right" approach that includes human editors in the loop.

Ken's vision of the future - where technology helps prevent legal disputes rather than just resolve them - points to a fundamental shift in how legal services might be delivered. It's not just about making existing processes more efficient, but potentially transforming the nature of legal practice itself.

For me, this conversation highlighted that we're at a true inflection point in legal services. The challenge for lawyers isn't whether to adopt AI, but how to do it thoughtfully and strategically while maintaining the high standards our profession demands.

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