Dan, Nathan, and Graeme join Andy to discuss the year ahead, including the start of the year, the possibility of public UFO hearings, mainstream language, the state of UFO news, the murkiness of UFO history, uncovering the truth about UFOs, exploring theories and speculations on UFO sightings, and the public perception and skepticism towards UFOs and alien abductions.
The UFO community is currently experiencing a lull in enthusiasm due to a lack of new groundbreaking information and a slower news cycle.
David Grush's upcoming op-ed is highly anticipated to address claims that have caused significant buzz, with expectations for line-by-line rebuttals to Sean Kirkpatrick's op-ed.
Holding public hearings on UFOs may not lead to significant breakthroughs, and the focus should be on credible witnesses within the US infrastructure to facilitate progress in UAP disclosure.
Deep dives
Slow progress in the UFO news
Despite the ongoing UFO news, there is a feeling of a lull in the enthusiastic UFO community. While there have been Kirkpatrick's article and the DoD IG report, revealing shortcomings in handling UAPs, there is a desire for new hard evidence to substantiate claims made by whistleblowers. The lack of new groundbreaking information and a dip in overall enthusiasm contribute to the perception of a slower UFO news cycle.
David Grush and the wait for further disclosure
Looking ahead to 2024, expectations surround David Grush's upcoming op-ed. Grush, having brought forth 40 whistleblowers and presented evidence to the ICIG, is anticipated to address several claims that have caused significant buzz. His op-ed may contain line-by-line rebuttals to Sean Kirkpatrick's op-ed, and the clash of competing claims could pose an intriguing challenge in terms of evaluation. Grush's credibility and the need for further evidence beyond bombastic claims were emphasized, indicating a desire for substantial progress in UAP disclosure.
The challenges of public hearings and the importance of credible witnesses
The topic of holding public hearings on UFOs raises several challenges. The highly complex nature of the subject, along with the government's commitment to security protocols and the desire to avoid discrediting the proceedings, make it unlikely for significant breakthroughs to occur in such settings. Despite the potential impact of public hearings, the focus should be on credible witnesses within the US infrastructure who are actively involved with UAP-related efforts. Their testimonies and corroboration of claims, along with individuals like General McCaslin potentially stepping forward, could carry more weight and facilitate progress in UAP disclosure.
Language in the mainstream
The podcast discusses the possible language that could become more mainstream in the UFO community. One contender is the concept of interdimensional or extra-dimensional beings, which has been mentioned by some members of the UAP caucus. This language is used as a placeholder since we don't have a clear understanding of what these beings are. Another possibility is the term 'non-human intelligence', which has been widely used within the community and could potentially circulate in the general population. The podcast also speculates about the future possibility of abductions becoming part of the mainstream conversation, although it acknowledges that we are currently far from that point.
Expectations for future hearings
The podcast explores the potential line-up for future public hearings on UFOs in 2024. The host and guests discuss the need for a mix of familiar faces and new whistleblowers to provide varied perspectives and experiences. Suggestions include individuals like Robert Salas, who could speak about nukes being taken offline, and the possibility of Bob Lazar if he decides to participate. They also touch on the importance of having non-government employees and individuals from special access programs sharing their stories. The hope is that a diverse group of individuals will bring forth different stories and evidence, capturing the attention of legislators and the public.
