My Daughter Interviews Me About M&A | Holiday Special Episode with Shyla Patel

Dec 15, 2025

In this entertaining holiday special, Shyla Patel, a high school student and daughter of the host, interviews her father about his new book on Buyer-Led M&A. They discuss the flaws in traditional M&A, emphasizing the critical importance of early integration planning for successful deals. Shyla learns about the five pillars of buyer-led M&A, which transform reactive processes into strategic engines. Their engaging conversation even unveils how proactive deal sourcing consistently outperforms bank-led auctions.

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INSIGHT

First Deals Teach The Hardest Lessons

Early M&A mistakes come from being reactive and learning the hard way on first deals.
A repeatable framework accelerates learning so teams don't have to burn through bad deals to improve.

ADVICE

Plan Integration From Day One

Plan integration early because integration determines whether value is realized.
Treat integration planning as a parallel workstream during diligence, not a post-close afterthought.

INSIGHT

M&A Is A Design Problem

M&A fails from a design problem when teams focus only on closing the deal.
Building parallel diligence and integration workstreams fixes the design and improves outcomes.

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In this special father-daughter episode, My daughter interviews me on my new book on Buyer-Led M&A™. We break down the framework built from over 400 practitioner interviews—covering why traditional M&A is flawed, how to shift from reactive auction-chasing to proactive deal sourcing, and why integration planning must begin during diligence. 💡 Things you will learn: 🔹 Why integration planning during diligence (not after) determines deal success

🔹 How the five pillars of buyer-led M&A transform reactive processes into strategic engines

🔹 Why proactive deal sourcing beats bank-led auctions every time

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Traditional M&A is broken. Buyers chase auctions. Sellers control the process. It's reactive, inefficient, and exhausting.

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Episode Timestamps

[00:00:00] Introduction to Buyer-Led M&A – Kison introduces his new book and the framework for flipping traditional M&A from reactive to proactive deal-making.

[00:05:30] The M&A Science Origin Story

[00:08:30] The Maturity Curve Problem – Why companies make catastrophic mistakes on their first deal and how the buyer-led framework accelerates learning.

[00:12:30] Integration Is Where Value Lives – Understanding that the real work starts after close and why planning integration early prevents people from quitting.

[00:19:00] M&A Has a Design Problem, Not an Execution Problem – Why focusing on closing deals instead of making deals successful creates systemic failure.

[00:25:00] The Five Pillars of Buyer-Led M&A – Breaking down never M&A on impulse, unified tools, synchronized diligence-integration, scalability, and win-win approaches.

[00:37:30] The Three Coats of Conviction – How reactive positioning, integration negligence, and model mirage derail even well-intentioned deals.

[00:49:00] What Elite Buyers Do Differently – Early alignment, clear accountability, defined operating models, and building M&A as an organizational muscle.

[00:54:00] Proprietary Deal Sourcing Beats Auctions – The house-buying analogy that illustrates why doing the hard work of finding your own deals creates better outcomes.

[01:00:30] The Single Most Important Takeaway – Own your assumptions, validate them through rigorous work, and lead the process instead of letting sellers drive it.

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