Diversity Is Great. DEI Isn't. Amna Khalid and Jeff Snyder

Mar 22, 2024

Professors Amna Khalid and Jeff Snyder discuss the flaws of diversity, equity, and inclusion training in institutions, highlighting the lack of evidence of its effectiveness. They emphasize the importance of genuine dialogue and critique corporate influence on DEI efforts in education. The conversation delves into challenges of free speech in academic environments and the nuances of promoting diversity while maintaining academic rigor.

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Introduction

00:00 • 2min

Rethinking Diversity Training and DEI Initiatives

01:32 • 16min

Exploring Speech Boundaries and Campus Policies post Hamas Attacks

17:38 • 2min

Navigating Free Speech and Academic Environment in Higher Education

19:33 • 12min

Embracing Diversity and Depth of Conversation

31:43 • 3min

Discussion on Free Expression, DEI Inc., and Academic Challenges

34:24 • 2min

Challenges and Ironies of Diversity Training

36:03 • 2min

Diversity equity and inclusion: Sounds like a good thing in an incredibly diverse country such as ours, especially when teaching young people at American colleges and universities.

But the DEI industry - or DEI Inc. — has arguably gone off the rails. There’s a big difference between the intentions behind a lot of diversity training and the results. We learn about the crucial difference between training and education, and hear the case against the Stop WOKE Act in Florida.

History professors Amna Khalid and Jeff Snyder share their deep concerns about a growing industry. There is no reliable evidence that diversity, equity and inclusion training sessions at colleges, non-profits, and large corporations actually work. In many places, DEI could be making things worse, imposing an ideological litmus test and encouraging cynicism and dishonesty at places of learning.

Amna specializes in modern South Asian history, the history of medicine and the global history of free expression. Growing up under a series of military dictatorships in Pakistan, she has a strong interest in issues relating to free speech.

Jeff is also a Professor at Carleton: A historian of education, who studies questions of race, national identity and the purpose of public education in a diverse, democratic society. He’s the author of Making Black History: The Color Line, Culture and Race in the Age of Jim Crow.

Jeff and Amna released this YouTube video about DEI. They speak regularly together about academic freedom, free speech and campus politics at colleges and universities. They also write frequently on these issues for newspapers and magazines, including The Chronicle of Higher Education, The New Republic and The Washington Post. Amna hosts a podcast and blog called “Banished,” which explores censorship controversies in the past and present.

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