

Talking Leadership with Phillip Stoller
Jun 6, 2025
Phillip Stoller, President of Saver Systems and an expert in leadership training, shares his insights on effective leadership. He discusses his journey from humble beginnings to guiding businesses through transformation. Stoller emphasizes the importance of humility and self-awareness, alongside the impact of small businesses on communities. The conversation touches on the evolution of coaching styles and the critical role of listening in leadership, providing practical tips for navigating modern leadership challenges.
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From Farmer Kid To Leadership Coach
- Phillip grew up on a farm, studied psychology, started Permacolum, then sold it and later joined Aileron as a leadership coach.
- He later left Aileron to help turn Saver Systems into an employee-owned company and lead culture there.
Clay’s Humble Rise And Purpose
- Clay built a massive business from humble beginnings and then devoted himself to helping small business owners run better businesses.
- Phillip credits Clay and Aileron with shaping his purpose to improve people’s quality of life through better leadership.
Business Problems Reflect Leader Blindspots
- Problems in your business often mirror problems inside you as a leader rather than external causes.
- Phillip says leaders must look inward with humility to see how their patterns create organizational chaos.