Episode 719: NATO's Maritime North, with Dr. Sebastian Bruns

Returning for the full hour will be Dr. Sebastian Bruns.

Sebastian is a seapower expert and maritime strategist. His current project as Senior Researcher at the Institute for Security Policy Kiel University (ISPK) is “NATO Maritime Strategies and Naval Operations since 1985”, a multi-year effort to explore the Alliance’s maritime and naval roles between the late Cold War and today. Sebastian is the founder of the Kiel International Seapower Symposium (KISS), the Baltic Sea Strategy Forum (BSSF), the “Dreizack” young voices in maritime research workshop, and the ISPK Seapower publication series (NOMOS). From 2021-2022, Dr. Bruns served as the inaugural John McCain-Fulbright Distinguished Visiting Professor at the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland, teaching Baltic Sea security and U.S. naval strategy to Midshipmen at the Political Science Department. He is a former Congressional staffer (then-Rep. Todd Young, IN-09), a fellow at the Royal Swedish Society of Naval Sciences, and a Non-Resident Fellow at the Royal Navy Strategic Studies Centre.

Showlinks

• How much do Nato members spend on defense?
• Kiel Seapower.
• West-up map of the Baltic.
• Kaliningrad.
• German-Norwegian submarine program.

Summary

In this episode, Sal and Mark welcome Dr. Sebastian Bruhn to discuss the evolving security landscape in the Baltic Sea region, particularly in light of recent Russian activities. They explore NATO's response, the historical context of the Baltic, and the implications of the Kaliningrad exclave. The conversation also touches on the concept of the 'NATO lake', the challenges of gray zone tactics, and the future of naval cooperation and shipbuilding partnerships within NATO.

Takeaways

• The Baltic Sea is experiencing increased military activity due to Russian threats.
• Kaliningrad's strategic position poses significant risks to NATO operations.
• The concept of the 'NATO lake' may lead to complacency in security measures.
• Gray zone tactics are complicating maritime security in the Baltic.
• NATO spending is increasing, particularly among Baltic nations.
• Germany's naval capabilities are being modernized but remain limited.
• Coast Guards are playing a crucial role in detaining shadow fleet vessels.
• Transatlantic shipbuilding partnerships are becoming more important.
• Historical context is vital for understanding current Baltic security dynamics.

Chapters

00:00: Introduction to NATO's Maritime North
03:40: The Baltic Sea: A Strategic Overview
10:04: Historical Context and Current Threats
18:38: Kaliningrad: A Geopolitical Challenge
21:27: Russian Military Capabilities in the Baltic
29:00: Gray Zone Tactics and Hybrid Warfare
29:27: Historical Context of Naval Warfare
31:40: NATO Spending and Defense Strategies
39:17: The Role of Coast Guards in Maritime Security
44:40: Bureaucracy and Naval Operations
48:03: International Collaboration in Shipbuilding
53:15: Maritime Domain Awareness and NATO's Role