Warsan Shire, a poet known for her powerful poem on the refugee crisis, talks about her failures in breastfeeding and math, her experience with an eating disorder, the meaning of 'home' and being a refugee. She also discusses her collaboration with Beyonce and the transformative power of support.
Warsan Shire found solace and empowerment through poetry, using it as a tool to process her experiences and navigate life as a refugee and outsider.
She struggled with dysphoric milk ejection reflex and developed an eating disorder, but through therapy and self-acceptance, she learned to manage and make peace with her struggles.
Warsan Shire shares her struggle with dyscalculia, a math learning disorder, and despite ongoing difficulties, she has found support and adaptation strategies to navigate through numerical challenges.
Deep dives
Overcoming Dysphoric Milk Ejection Reflex and the Challenges of Breastfeeding
At the age of 15, Warsen Shire attended a poetry workshop that changed her life. As a refugee and outsider, poetry became a powerful tool for processing her experiences. She struggled with dysphoric milk ejection reflex, which caused negative feelings and made breastfeeding difficult. Through therapy and self-acceptance, she learned to make peace with her struggles and found ways to nourish her children, both physically and emotionally.
Battling an Eating Disorder and Embracing Self-Acceptance
Warsen Shire developed an eating disorder at a young age, struggling with body image and seeking control through binging and purging. It affected her mental and physical health, but a transformative experience at a Moroccan hammam opened her eyes to self-acceptance. While the thoughts still linger, she has learned to manage her eating disorder, prioritize her well-being, and advocate for open discussions about mental health.
Overcoming Math Struggles and Navigating Numerical Challenges
Warsen Shire shares her struggle with dyscalculia, a math learning disorder that affected her ability to understand and work with numbers. Dyscalculia impacted her daily life, making tasks like financial management and reading clocks challenging. While it poses ongoing difficulties, she has found support and adaptation strategies to navigate through numerical challenges.
Empowerment through Collaborating with Beyoncé and Embracing Her Idol's Support
Having been a long-time fan of Beyoncé, Warsen Shire found empowerment and support through collaborating with the superstar. Beyoncé's kindness, respect, and appreciation for Warsen's work made her feel valued and empowered. The collaboration not only fulfilled a childhood dream but further boosted Warsen's confidence in her own art and creativity.
Finding Inspiration in Personal and Cultural Backgrounds and Embracing Identity
Growing up as a refugee and feeling like an outsider, Warsen Shire drew inspiration from her personal and cultural backgrounds. Her experiences, including her family's journey as refugees, shaped her perspective and fueled her creativity. Through poetry, she explored themes of identity, belonging, and the universal human experience, bridging the gap between her personal narrative and broader social issues.
I'm biased but oh my goodness, I love this guest and this episode SO much. Ahead of Refugee Week, which runs 20-26th June, it is my honour to welcome the poet Warsan Shire to the podcast. Warsan was born in Kenya to Somali parents. She migrated with her family to the UK at the age of one and her powerful poem Home - which opens with the line ‘no one leaves home unless home is the mouth of a shark - has become the unofficial anthem to raise awareness of the refugee crisis. She's also a frequent collaborator with Beyonce - her poems are featured in the singer's seminal visual album, Lemonade. Now, at the age of 33, Warsan’s first full length collection, Bless the Daughter Raised by a Voice in Her Head, has just been published to critical acclaim.
Warsan joins me to talk about her failures in everything from breastfeeding to maths. We also talk about her eating disorder and her 'failure to control it'. We discuss what 'home' really means and what it is to be a refugee. And yes, we OBVIOUSLY talk about Beyonce.
Warsan is a beautiful, powerful communicator and this interview made me think and understand better. I hope you like it as much as I do.