The Lawfare Podcast

Rational Security: The “Don’t Upset the Masks” Edition

Oct 15, 2025
Molly Roberts, a newly minted senior editor at Lawfare, joins the discussion alongside Benjamin Wittes and Kate Klonick. They delve into the Trump administration’s Gaza peace plan, exploring its implications and the ongoing conflict's fragility. They also tackle hot topics like the unprecedented political messaging during the government shutdown and its legal ramifications under the Hatch Act. Finally, the panel examines China's new export controls and their strategic impact on global supply chains, particularly in the tech sector.
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ANECDOTE

Masks From Kenya In The Office

  • Benjamin Wittes recounts getting four large, disturbing wooden masks from Kenya through his mother.
  • He hung them in his office and resists removing them because of a promise to his mother.
INSIGHT

Ceasefire Is Real But Fragile

  • The Trump administration brokered a fragile but meaningful Gaza ceasefire that returned hostages and opened humanitarian aid channels.
  • Long-term peace remains uncertain because rebuilding, governance, and disarmament obligations are unresolved.
INSIGHT

Don't Call It Peace Yet

  • Big speeches and photo-ops risk overstating a ceasefire as lasting peace and create premature expectations.
  • Policymakers should wait for durable commitments before declaring a historic peace breakthrough.
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