As tech giants like Microsoft dismantle DEI teams, this segment probes the industry's true commitment to diversity. Are we witnessing the death of corporate DEI or its evolution?

Kelli and Nolan dissect the disconnect between lofty promises and marginal progress, questioning whether current approaches are effective, and challenge listeners to envision a "Chapter Two" for DEI—one that prioritizes authentic inclusion over mere metrics.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:20) Microsoft Fires DEI Team: A Growing Trend in Tech

(01:01) Conflicting Messages: Microsoft's DEI Stance Analyzed

(03:16) Evaluating DEI Tactics: A Decade in Review

(04:26) Early Intervention: Google's Approach to Long-Term DEI

(05:42) The Missing Piece: Lack of Alternative DEI Strategies

(07:28) Questioning Tech's DEI Commitment

(08:10) Recognizing DEI's Cultural Impact

(09:40) Chapter Two of DEI: Hoping for Creative New Approaches

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(11:43) Progress in Workplace Inclusivity

(13:35) Rethinking DEI Implementation

(14:10) Leading the Way in DEI Innovation

(15:31) The Need for Qualitative DEI Measures

(16:15) Wrap

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