The Fifth Column Destroy All Robots…Before They Destroy US (w/ Andy Mills)
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Dec 2, 2025 
Andy Mills, a podcast journalist known for his investigative work on AI, dives deep into the complexities of artificial general intelligence. He discusses the concept of AGI as a new species and its potential to reshape humanity. The conversation explores various perspectives on AI, including the looming 'hinge moment' predicted for 2025. Mills emphasizes the risks of runaway intelligence and economic dependence on AI, while reflecting on how creators like Elon Musk have called for regulations amid a rush to develop. This crucial dialogue is both alarming and thought-provoking.
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Sam Altman Interview On UBI
- Andy recounts interviewing Sam Altman about UBI and finding him intellectually unprepared on policy details.
- He felt Altman's brilliance didn't translate into thoughtful political answers during the interview.
Origins Of The Last Invention Podcast
- Andy Mills describes his podcast track record and team behind The Last Invention.
- He credits colleagues like Matt Bull and a production team for making the project possible.
Current AI Moment As A Hinge Event
- Andy Mills frames today's AI moment as a singular, historically consequential hinge rather than mere chatbot hype.
- He argues the underlying AGI project, not current products, could redefine humanity within decades.