Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11)

A tale of two Americas in one $50K cash withdrawal

Mar 6, 2025

Explore the fascinating world of banking procedures through the lens of a $50,000 cash withdrawal that turned into a scam. Delve into the protocols banks follow and how they protect customers while addressing operational challenges. The discussion also reveals biases based on personal appearance and critiques journalistic integrity in financial fraud reporting. With an emphasis on financial literacy, the investigation uncovers the importance of proper documentation and the complexities involved in navigating such large transactions.

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Quick takeaways

Banks follow strict protocols for large cash withdrawals to prevent fraud, emphasizing the importance of customer identity verification and risk assessment.

Socioeconomic factors influence banking interactions, revealing disparities in scrutiny and treatment based on a client's financial status during cash withdrawals.

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Understanding Banking Procedures

When a customer requests a large cash withdrawal, banks follow a series of well-established procedures to manage the risk of fraud and ensure compliance with regulations. The process includes verifying the customer's identity and assessing whether such a withdrawal is typical for them. Bank staff are trained to handle these situations, which may involve asking the customer about their intentions for the cash to assess potential risks. If unusual circumstances arise, additional oversight may be applied, employing a two-person verification rule to seek additional confirmation before proceeding.

Intro

2min

Understanding Bank Protocols for Large Cash Withdrawals

4min

The Intricacies of Large Cash Withdrawals and Journalistic Integrity

25min

Unraveling a $50K Withdrawal: Financial Intrigues and Documentation Challenges

10min

Patrick McKenzie (patio11) explains the standard procedure for large withdrawals in bank branches, with particular focus on the viral story published in The Cut about a woman who withdrew $50,000 cash from a bank and handed it to scammers. Certain minor details in the article set off a year-long investigation where he identified the exact physical location of the bank branch in question, researched the context for the transaction using public records, and obtained new details through FOIA requests. His investigation reveals an underlying narrative that accounts for what actually happened, and provides a worked example for fact-checking in journalism.
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Full transcript available here:
www.complexsystemspodcast.com/two-americas-one-50k-withdrawal/

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Recommended in this episode:

Two Americas, one bank, and $50,000 cash https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/two-americas-one-bank-branch/
The Cut, The Day I Put $50,000 in a Shoe Box and Handed It to a Stranger https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html
Kelsey Piper on Complex Systems https://open.spotify.com/episode/33rHTZVowaq76tCTaKJfRB
Jim McKenzie on Complex Systems https://open.spotify.com/episode/6ocJirzGTStuf0K9ITM21X

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Timestamps:

(00:55) Suppose you ask a bank to withdraw $50,000 in cash

(07:55) Style magazines sometimes publish hard-hitting journalism

(12:36) Reaching out to Vox Media

(17:09) Sources of doubt
(17:55) Sponsor: Safebase

(22:30) The physical reality of bank branches

(25:53) In which we became acquainted with brisk walks across Brooklyn

(34:42) New York’s Finest foil FOIL for a time

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