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A U.S.-China Cold War, With Robin Niblett

Jul 23, 2024

Sir Robin Niblett from Chatham House discusses a potential US-China Cold War with James Lindsay. They delve into the implications for global alliances, reflect on parallels with the US-Soviet Cold War, and analyze foreign policy choices in global affairs. They explore the dynamics of a new Cold War, touching on trade, alliances, and nuclear arms.

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Robin Niblett

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Quick takeaways

The U.S.-China Cold War stems from both traditional power rivalry and an ideological clash between centralized governance and democratic systems.

Global shifts in alignments and the emergence of the 'axis of the aggrieved,' including China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea, reflect shared grievances against Western powers.

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U.S.-China Cold War Dynamics

The U.S.-China Cold War is characterized by a rising power challenging the existing major power. Apart from traditional power rivalry, an ideological divide exists between the centralized governance model of China's Communist Party and the bottom-up, democratic systems in the U.S. and Europe.

Intro

2min

US-China Cold War Tensions and Global Alliances

15min

Parallels and Divergences: Cold War Reflections

10min

Analysis of Foreign and Domestic Policy Choices in Global Affairs

4min

Exploring the Dynamics of a New Cold War Between the US and China

5min

Sir Robin Niblett, distinguished fellow at Chatham House, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss a potential second Cold War between the United States and China.

Mentioned on the Episode

Graham Allison, Destined for War: Can American and China Escape Thucydides’ Trap?

Barry Buzan, “A New Cold War? The Case for a General Concept,” International Politics

Robin Niblett, “The G-7 Must Prepare Now for Trump,” Foreign Policy

Robin Niblett, The New Cold War: How the Contest Between the US and China Will Shape Our Century

Robin Niblett and Leslie Vinjamuri, “The Liberal Order Begins at Home,” Foreign Affairs

Jake Sullivan, “Remarks by National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on Renewing American Economic Leadership at the Brookings Institution,” April 27, 2023

Jake Sullivan, “The Sources of American Power: A Foreign Policy for a Changed World,” Foreign Affairs

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