Joining Abby and Patrick is Simon Critchley, the Hans Jonas Professor of Philosophy at the New School for Social Research, acclaimed for his explorations of mysticism and existentialism. In a captivating conversation, they delve into Critchley’s new book on mysticism, specifically discussing how mystical experiences transcend the self. Topics range from the eroticism in the Song of Songs to the unique narratives of mystics like Margery Kempe and Meister Eckhart. They also examine the rich interplay between mysticism, gender, and modern psychoanalytic insights.
Simon Critchley argues that mysticism transcends conscious thought, offering ecstatic experiences that challenge traditional notions of subjectivity.
The immersive language of the Song of Songs invites readers to engage with sensuality through vivid imagery, enhancing the understanding of embodied perception.
Critchley highlights the historical context of mystics, revealing their diverse experiences and the transformative potential of their practices in contemporary spirituality.
Deep dives
The Intrigue of the Song of Songs
The Song of Songs captivates readers due to its improbable inclusion in the biblical canon and its rich layers of interpretation. It is a nuptial poem that features a female protagonist, the Shulamit, whose voice leads the narrative, highlighting a unique perspective on love and desire. Unlike other more explicit ancient love poems, it employs agrarian similes, creating a sense of restraint and subtlety that enhances its erotic quality. This indirectness invites various interpretations, making it a resource for both religious and literary contemplation that resonates deeply with audiences today.
Sensual Language and Tactile Experience
The poem's language evokes sensuality through its vivid imagery and olfactory references, inviting readers to luxuriate in their imagination. The text conjures sensations of touch and smell, such as the fragrance of cedar and myrrh, creating an immersive experience for the reader. The discussion draws parallels to mystical literature, emphasizing the importance of embodied perception and sensory engagement. This focus on tactile experience contrasts sharply with a purely intellectual understanding of spirituality, encouraging a deeper connection with the mystic tradition.
The Liberation of Mysticism
Simon Critchley discusses the often misunderstood nature of mysticism, emphasizing that it should not focus solely on conscious thought or belief in a transcendent being. Instead, mysticism is seen as a collection of practices that provide access to ecstatic experiences beyond the self. By distinguishing between the mystical and the merely religious, Critchley highlights the transformative potential of these practices for individuals, allowing for a deeper engagement with spirituality. This perspective shifts the discourse away from traditional criticisms of mysticism, suggesting a reevaluation of its relevance in contemporary discussions.
Encountering Historical Mystics
Critchley's examination of historical mystics, such as Julian of Norwich and Meister Eckhart, showcases the richness and variety of mystical experiences. He emphasizes the need to resituate mysticism within its historical context, acknowledging that many figures did not label themselves as mystics. These mystics often faced persecution for their unconventional views and practices, which continue to nourish spiritual discussions today. The contrast between their lived experiences and contemporary readings unveils the depth of insight these texts can provide across generations.
Transformative Love and Psychoanalytic Resonance
The conversation reveals a profound connection between mysticism and psychoanalysis, particularly regarding the themes of love and transformation. Critchley posits that both fields seek to transcend the self through love, echoing sentiments found in mystical literature. By exploring how psychoanalysis can incorporate mysticism’s approaches to experiencing the world, a new understanding of personal healing emerges. This culminates in the idea that mysticism and psychoanalysis can together foster a more expansive view of human experience, one that embraces both ecstatic and embodied dimensions.
Abby and Patrick are joined by philosopher Simon Critchley to discuss his new book, On Mysticism: The Experience of Ecstasy. They discuss how, for Critchley, mysticism represents "a way of thinking about existential ecstasy that is outside and more than the conscious self.” Exploring the book’s survey of key figures and texts in the Western Christian tradition, the three unpack how accounts of mystical experiences can challenge our assumptions about the past, defy traditional philosophical ideas of subjectivity, and suggest new ways of thinking about the conditions of everyday life in the present, all with rich psychoanalytic implications. Their conversation ranges from the cognitive and affective dimensions of mystical experience to mystical accounts of embodiment, gender, and erotic jouissance to the biographies and autobiographies of mystics, and more. Plus: what it might have been like to travel with the constantly weeping Margery Kempe, Meister Eckhart’s inspired defense against charges of heresy, the ecstatic pleasures of your favorite playlist, and why absolutely everyone should read the Song of Songs.
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