Animal Spirits Podcast

Talk Your Book: Longevity Income

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Nov 4, 2024
Nate Conrad, Head of LifeX at Stone Ridge Asset Management, specializes in longevity income ETFs and retirement planning. He delves into how longevity income ETFs can reshape retirement strategies, emphasizing the importance of aligning spending with investment products. Discussions include innovative bond solutions, tackling the psychological challenges retirees face, and managing ETF funds for stable income. Conrad also highlights the need for flexibility in financial planning, ensuring security as life expectancies increase.
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Problem with Traditional Bond Funds

  • Traditional bond funds distribute interest but leave principal withdrawals to the investor.
  • This creates uncertainty and psychological hurdles for retirees.
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Suboptimal Spending and Bond Ladders

  • Many retirees avoid touching principal, preferring to live off interest, which is often tax-inefficient.
  • Bond ladders offer a solution but are complex and don't scale well.
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LifeX ETF Structure

  • LifeX ETFs simplify retirement income by packaging a bond ladder into a single ETF.
  • Investors choose a target year, receiving monthly interest and principal distributions until then.
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