The Matthews Mentality Podcast

E78: Dr. Chris Thornberg | America’s Economy Is Stronger Than You Think

Sep 9, 2025
Dr. Chris Thornberg, founding partner of Beacon Economics, challenges common narratives about the U.S. economy, arguing it's stronger than perceived. He discusses the complexities of the housing market, contrasting strict regulations in cities like Los Angeles with more relaxed Nashville policies. The conversation delves into the impact of AI on productivity and critiques political narratives around deficit spending. Thornberg also addresses wealth inequality, the role of foreign investment, and the need for a more nuanced understanding of economic cycles.
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INSIGHT

Economy Likely To Keep Growing

  • Chris Thornberg believes the U.S. economy will likely grow over the next year and avoid recession despite rising risks.
  • He warns predicting timing is hard and stresses watching where risks originate, not just headline metrics.
ANECDOTE

Early Call On The Housing Bubble

  • Thornberg began worrying about real estate in 2004 and publicly warned by 2006, leaving UCLA to found Beacon Economics.
  • The housing problem was only widely acknowledged by late 2008 when markets and credit seized up.
INSIGHT

QE After COVID Fueled Asset Inflation

  • Jerome Powell’s large QE and fiscal transfers after COVID pumped asset prices and government borrowing, creating long-term inflationary risks.
  • Thornberg blames excessive monetary stimulus for seeding today's asset bubble and debt vulnerabilities.
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