Episode 10 - A CMO Confidential Interview with Tom Kirk, the long-time EVP and Chief Client Officer of RPA, the large independent agency in Los Angeles. TK, as he is known, discusses creative as a business driver, how consensus building can destroy good ideas, thinking through your agency interface and organization structure, Wayne Gretzky, and last, but not least an "orbiting the giant hairball "cow analogy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.