What are the implications of building software that interacts with your customer's customers? Our guest today is Adii Pienaar, previosly the founder of WooCommerce and Conversio. We talk about his five-year journey with Conversio, product lessons learned, how to do freemium right, how to stay ethical, and much more.

Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Play Music.

Show Notes

CM Commerce (previously Conversio) — Adii's latest product, acquired by Campaign Monitor
WooCommerce — Adii's previous product
Userlist — Jane's product
Motion — Adii's poetry book
Adii's personal website
Follow Adii on Twitter: @adii

Today's Sponsor

This episode is brought to you by Lightmatter. Lightmatter helps some of the world’s fastest growing companies design and develop their software applications. Whether you don’t yet need an in-house engineering team, or you’re busy growing the next unicorn and can’t hire fast enough, there’s an immense value in working with a group of experts like Lightmatter. Check them out at lightmatter.com/uibreakfast to learn more.

Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.