Lights On with Carl Lentz Is It Possible To Get Over Church Hurt?
Jun 18, 2025
In a heartfelt conversation, Andrew Simila, a longtime friend of Carl Lentz, shares his journey through the aftermath of church scandal and the loyalty that cost him dearly. He opens up about the silence that followed their shared experience at Hillsong and the intense work needed to rebuild from rock bottom. The two discuss the true meaning of forgiveness, the struggles of church hurt, and the power of accountability in healing. They emphasize that real growth comes from within, reshaping one’s story and embracing vulnerability for deeper connections.
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Struggle Finding Ministry Roles
- Andrew faced rejection applying for pastoral roles after Hillsong despite his experience.
- Financial stress pushed him to apply for janitor jobs during this painful transition.
Change Requires New Identity
- Change requires you to become someone new, not just new actions.
- You can’t do what you’ve never done without becoming who you’ve never been.
No Perfect Church Boat
- All churches and leaders are human and imperfect, so jumping to a new church boat won’t guarantee safety.
- Building life on any human organization risks future disappointment.
