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The Myth of the Perfect Candidate

Nov 12, 2024

Kelli and Nolan dive into the complexities of the hiring process, focusing on the importance of direct communication with hiring managers. They address how to navigate feedback and self-awareness to identify skills gaps. The conversation emphasizes crafting a unique personal narrative that highlights individual contributions rather than job titles. Listeners are encouraged to transform rejection into a growth opportunity, using feedback as a catalyst for personal and professional development.

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Candidates should engage directly with hiring managers to gather targeted feedback and align their experiences with role requirements.

Addressing gaps in experience during interviews by demonstrating problem-solving abilities can effectively reposition candidates for larger responsibilities.

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Engaging with Hiring Managers

Candidates should strive to engage directly with hiring managers rather than solely relying on recruiter feedback. When recruiters provide insights about a candidate's potential fit, it's important to remember that they may not have a full understanding of the intricacies of the hiring manager's needs. Initiating a conversation with the hiring manager allows candidates to gather more targeted feedback and to discuss how their unique experiences align with the role. This direct communication can reveal valuable insights that intermediaries might overlook, giving candidates a better chance of addressing any concerns.

Intro

4min

Navigating the Hiring Maze: The Importance of Communication

3min

Embracing Gaps: A Strategy for Career Advancement

4min

Crafting Your Unique Job Narrative

2min

Transforming Rejection into Growth Opportunities

2min

Today Kelli and Nolan tackle a real-world HR career challenge: a candidate who received feedback that while they could handle their current role, the hiring manager was unsure about their ability to scale with company growth.

Drawing from their extensive backgrounds in recruiting and HR leadership, they help listeners navigate everything from interview feedback to career growth, offering insider perspectives that challenge traditional HR thinking and empower professionals to take control of their career narrative.

*Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: hrheretics@turpentine.co

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:00) Dear Heretics Question - Scaling HR

(02:45) Understanding Hiring Manager Requirements

(04:24) Focus on Aptitude and Mindset

(04:58) Recruiters' Current Challenges

(06:13) Anticipate Feedback and Be Proactive

(07:00) Highlight Strengths and Address Gaps

(07:35) Proactive Preparation for Interviews

(08:22) "Show Up With A Solution"

(08:40) Sponsor: Metaview

(09:52) Value of HRBP Experience

(10:47) Don't Underestimate Your Experience

(11:02) Narrative is Key

(11:25) HR and Sales Parallels

(11:46) Focus on Personal Narrative

(12:13) Gain Experience Inside Your Company

(13:36) Turn Feedback into Growth

(14:05) Architect Your Own Experience

(14:18) Wrap

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