Ep321: Tibetan Bon - Lama Vajranatha

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Aug 22, 2025

John Myrdhin Reynolds, also known as Lama Vajranatha, is a renowned scholar and practitioner of Tibetan Buddhism with deep ties to the Bon religion. In this discussion, he explores the distinct teachings of Bon compared to Buddhism, revealing its rich history and practices. John dives into the evolution of Bon traditions and their transmission in the West, addressing misconceptions about their authenticity. He shares insights on the significance of Dzogchen, the resilience of the Bonpo community, and the role of ritual and meditation in attaining spiritual powers.

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INSIGHT

Bon Versus Buddhism: Surface Similarities

Bon and Tibetan Buddhism appear very similar to Western observers but are distinct in lineage and presentation.
John Myrdhin Reynolds stresses Tibetans call Buddhism 'chö' and Bon 'bon', two separate traditions with overlapping forms.

ANECDOTE

First Encounters With Namkhai Norbu

Reynolds recounts meeting Namkhai Norbu and being asked to translate Bon Dzogchen texts at an Italian retreat center.
That contact launched his deeper involvement with Bon and translation work from Lopön's brought texts.

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Two Authentic Dzogchen Lineages

Namkhai Norbu argued two authentic Dzogchen lineages existed: Nyingma and a Zhangzheng/Bon lineage.
Reynolds presents Bon's claim of an independent pre-7th-century Dzogchen transmission from Zhangzheng.

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In this episode I am once again joined by John Myrdhin Reynolds, also known as Lama Vajranatha: writer, teacher, translator, and scholar/practitioner of Tibetan Buddhism. John shares his own decades of contact with the Bon religion, reveals its doctrines and practices, and gives a detailed history of its transmission in the West. John traces the automythos of Bon, compares it to historical evidence and Buddhist accounts, and addresses the common critique that Bon is merely plagiarised Buddhism. John also addresses misconceptions about the history of religion in Tibet, explains how to successfully practice multiple religious lineages, and reveals various means of attaining siddhi power through ritual and meditation. … Video version: https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep321-tibetan-bon-lama-vajranatha Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’. … Topics Include: 00:00 - Intro 00:53 - Bon vs Buddhism 01:35 - First contact with Bon and subsequent involvement 06:17 - Namkhai Norbu’s nationalism and promotion of Bon 06:44 - 2 authentic Dzogchen lineages 07:45 - Bon Dzogchen 09:10 - Later transmission period and folk religion syncretism 12:03 - Old Bon vs New Bon 13:06 - Bon’s automythos 14:11 - Snellgrove’s “9 Ways of Bon” 16:37 - Bonpo refugee community in India 18:08 - Reprinting of Bonpo texts in exile 19:31 - Gene Smith’s text preservation work 22:25 - Election of Lungtok Tenpai Nyima as the 33rd Menri Trizin 24:35 - Dalai Lama’s recognition of Bon as the fifth Tibetan school 26:39 - Bon scriptures 28:38 - Are gter ma authentic? 32:17 - Personal contact post-1959 and T Lobsang Rampa 33:27 - Academic work on Bon 34:44 - Geshe Tenzin Wangyal comes to the West 40:03 - Lopon’s interest in translations and USA activities 43:46 - New Age sponsorship of Bon 45:31 - Further USA activities 48:02 - Search for a Bon HQ in Europe + gtum mo studies 51:20 - Guinness sponsor a Bonpo HQ in Europe, blocked by aristocrats over Sogyal scandal 56:11 - Tenzin Wangyal’s USA activities and influx of Bon teachers 58:48 - Geshe Wangyal, Jeffrey Hopkins, and Robert Thurman 59:32 - Jeffrey Hopkin’s influence on Buddhist Studies 01:02:38 - Popularity of podcasts 01:04:11 - Samten Karmay 01:05:27 - Bon vs Buddhism & the question of plagiarism 01:07:34 - Bonpo one-upmanship? 01:12:44 - How to practice different lineages simultaneously 01:18:50 - Namkhai Norbu’s independent status 01:21:16 - Supernatural powers of Bonpo lamas and other spiritual beings 01:24:53 - Chatral Rinpoche’s siddhi powers and the possibility of miracles 01:27:24 - How to attain siddhi powers 01:30:32 - Tibetan vs gter ma in the rest of the world 01:33:06 - Accidental gter ma 01:35:39 - Misconceptions about the history of religion in Tibet 01:37:32 - Animal sacrifice and gtor ma 01:41:40 - Lithuanian’s unusual religious heritage 01:45:44 - Spiritual relations in India and Tibet … Previous episodes with John Myrdhin Reynolds: - https://www.guruviking.com/search?q=vajranatha To find our more about John Myrdhin Reynolds visit: - https://vajranatha.com/ For more interviews, videos, and more visit: - https://www.guruviking.com Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James