Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark Remembering Charlie Kirk with Michael Knowles and Ben Shapiro
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Sep 22, 2025 
Ben Shapiro, a conservative commentator and co-founder of The Daily Wire, joins fellow Daily Wire host Michael Knowles to reflect on Charlie Kirk's legacy. They share their first impressions of Charlie and discuss rumors about his faith journey and security concerns after his assassination. Ben denies any fallout between them while highlighting Charlie's coalition-building impact. Michael expresses his grief and emphasizes the importance of protecting free speech amidst political tensions. Their heartfelt conversation captures the essence of Charlie's influence on the conservative movement.
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From Gangly Organizer To Icon
- Ben Shapiro first met Charlie Kirk when Charlie was 18 and aggressively fundraising for Turning Point.
- Ben watched Charlie grow from an organizer into a charismatic national figure through sheer will and grit.
No Personal Feud Between Peers
- Ben Shapiro denies any personal 'beef' with Charlie and explains gaps were due to COVID and scheduling.
- He emphasizes private pragmatic conversations were normal in politics and never turned acrimonious.
Keep Engaging Despite Risk
- Ben says public figures must accept risk and continue engaging the public despite danger.
- He urges everyone to 'do their bit' and carry forward Charlie's work rather than trying to replace him.