Interesting Times with Ross Douthat The DOGE Alum Asking if Foreign Aid Is America’s Problem
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Jul 31, 2025 
Jeremy Lewin, a former Department of Government Efficiency staffer and deputy administrator for USAID, sheds light on the transformation of U.S. foreign aid under the Trump administration. He explores the moral obligations America faces globally and critiques USAID's evolving focus. The discussion touches on controversial cuts to humanitarian aid, contrasting U.S. strategies with China's approach in Africa, and the importance of aligning aid with national interests while fostering genuine partnerships. Lewin advocates for a vision that balances values and America's geopolitical goals.
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Career Shift to Government Reform
- Jeremy Lewin shifted from private sector law to government via the Trump administration's Department of Government Efficiency.
- A friend who worked at Tesla helped him join Doge to reform government efficiency quickly.
USAID's Misaligned Focus
- USAID focused on serving the global humanitarian complex, neglecting American taxpayer interests.
- Funds often supported programs undesired by local governments and contrary to U.S. diplomatic priorities.
Rationale for Fast USAID Reform
- Rapid USAID restructuring was necessary to overcome entrenched bureaucracy and implement generational foreign assistance reforms.
- Short-term disruptions are acceptable for long-term alignment with American interests.