

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
New York Times Opinion
The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion.
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Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 13min
Hasan Piker Is Flirting With the Revolution
In a thought-provoking discussion, Twitch and YouTube star Hasan Piker taps into political violence's allure and its ties to his radical views. He argues that revolutionary optimism can offer hope amid shifting sentiments towards Israel. Piker explores the implications of hyperbolic rhetoric in the digital age, discussing how out-of-context clips shape public perception. He also shares insights from his Turkish upbringing and critiques U.S. foreign policy, revealing why anti-Zionist advocacy resonates with various communities.

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Sep 25, 2025 • 59min
The Grand Strategy Behind Trump’s Crackdown on Academia
Mae Mailman, a lawyer behind Trump's strategy on elite universities, dives into the challenges facing American higher education. She critiques the 'culture of victimhood' that undermines merit and discusses how this impacts campus life. Mailman highlights the rise of protest culture and the role of social media in shaping today's university dynamics. She reveals federal strategies for enforcing compliance among universities and calls for a return to merit-based admissions, emphasizing the need for intellectual diversity and accountability in academia.

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Sep 18, 2025 • 48min
Ezra Klein Is Worried — but Not About a Radicalized Left
Ezra Klein, a prominent journalist and co-founder of Vox, explores the current state of the left in America. He discusses the urgent need for a unifying project to combat progressive pessimism and the vacuum within the Democratic Party. Klein warns about the risks of political violence and critiques inaction, proposing a vision of 'Abundance' that emphasizes faith in government and technology. The conversation also touches on reclaiming a narrative of inclusion and articulating a concrete vision of the 'good life' that resonates with American values.

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Apr 6, 2025 • 3min
Introducing ‘Interesting Times’
This podcast dives into the complexities of our rapidly changing world. It tackles the implications of the Trump presidency and the COVID-19 pandemic on our societal fabric. Listeners will explore the future of democracy as American influence shifts. The conversation also ventures into how culture—movies and books—will evolve in an era dominated by digital technology and AI. Each discussion promises thought-provoking insights into our current and future realities.