

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
New York Times Opinion
The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion.
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Jan 7, 2026 • 54min
A Defense of U.S. Intervention in Venezuela
Elliott Abrams, a seasoned U.S. foreign policy official and former envoy for Venezuela under Trump, advocates for vigorous regime change in Venezuela. He emphasizes the humanitarian and geopolitical imperatives of removing Maduro, while dissecting the Trump administration's current strategy. Abrams proposes a negotiated transition involving amnesty and international mediation. He also explores past U.S. engagements, military options, and the influence of external players like Russia and Iran, questioning the administration's priorities and effectiveness.

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Jan 1, 2026 • 1h 48min
‘Making Sense With Sam Harris’ and Ross Douthat
Ross Douthat, a New York Times columnist and author, dives deep into provocative discussions with Sam Harris about religion and politics. They explore the existence of God, the limits of consciousness, and the potential impacts of AI on human purpose. Douthat critiques modern social conservatism while examining why Christians supported Trump. The duo also debates religion's role in moral progress versus secular ethics, and even touches on the intriguing topic of demonology. This conversation challenges beliefs and pushes the boundaries of understanding.

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Dec 24, 2025 • 4min
‘A Hard Time We Had of It’
Holiday greetings set a festive tone as reflections on the uncertain year ahead emerge. A meaningful reading of T.S. Eliot's "The Journey of the Magi" delves into themes of transformation and hardship. The dark undertones of the poem spark a discussion about the interplay of darkness and light, essential to grasping the true spirit of Christmas. Ross encourages listeners to embrace the darkness to appreciate the light, wrapping up with warm wishes.

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Apr 6, 2025 • 3min
Introducing ‘Interesting Times’
This podcast dives into the complexities of our rapidly changing world. It tackles the implications of the Trump presidency and the COVID-19 pandemic on our societal fabric. Listeners will explore the future of democracy as American influence shifts. The conversation also ventures into how culture—movies and books—will evolve in an era dominated by digital technology and AI. Each discussion promises thought-provoking insights into our current and future realities.


