

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 36min
Ross and Ezra Klein Discuss Trump, Mysticism and Psychedelics
Ezra Klein converses with Ross Douthat, a New York Times columnist and author known for his conservative insights. They dive into the impact of mysticism on politics during the Trump era, touching on themes of destiny and moral accountability. Their discussion spans the complexities of Christianity in modern culture, contrasting it with contemporary ethical dilemmas. They also explore the intersection of psychedelics and spirituality, pondering how altered states can lead to profound insights. Expect a blend of debate, personal stories, and thought-provoking ideas!

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Aug 14, 2025 • 56min
Abolish the Senate. End the Electoral College. Pack the Court.
In this discussion, Osita Nwanevu, author of "The Right of the People: Democracy and the Case for a New American Founding," dives deep into America's democratic flaws and the potential for a radical transformation. He challenges the historical foundations of U.S. democracy, suggesting a need for a new constitution. The conversation explores Trump's presidency as a reflection of democratic desires and the economic factors reshaping political priorities. Nwanevu also points to the importance of charismatic leadership in mobilizing a united left.

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Aug 7, 2025 • 1h 3min
The Next Parenting Trend Starts Before Conception
In this discussion, Noor Siddiqui, the founder of Orchid, explores the cutting-edge world of genetic testing for embryos. She shares the vision behind her company, which aims to empower parents with the ability to select healthier embryos before pregnancy. The conversation dives into the ethical implications of 'designing' children, the emotional weight surrounding genetic conditions, and the societal challenges of separating reproduction from traditional methods. Siddiqui also addresses skepticism surrounding genetic screening and the evolving landscape of IVF.

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Apr 6, 2025 • 3min
Introducing ‘Interesting Times’
This podcast dives into the complexities of our rapidly changing world. It tackles the implications of the Trump presidency and the COVID-19 pandemic on our societal fabric. Listeners will explore the future of democracy as American influence shifts. The conversation also ventures into how culture—movies and books—will evolve in an era dominated by digital technology and AI. Each discussion promises thought-provoking insights into our current and future realities.