That UFO Podcast Inside AARO: Tim Phillips on UAPs, National Security, & Government Transparency
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Jun 17, 2025 Tim Phillips, former Deputy Director of the AARO, brings a wealth of experience from his intelligence career. He shares his first impressions of AARO, discussing the unique challenges in UAP investigations and the importance of transparency. Tim dives into the complexities of validating UAP claims and tackling disinformation. He also reflects on the role of whistleblowers in congressional inquiries and the national security implications of sightings, including black triangles. The conversation wraps up with a hopeful glance at AARO’s future and the evolving narrative surrounding UAPs.
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Tim's Unexpected AARO Assignment
- Tim Phillips was unexpectedly assigned to the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) after a career in military intelligence.\n- Despite initial unfamiliarity, he found AARO a legitimate government effort to understand UFO phenomena.
AARO's Focus and Access
- AARO's focus is on unidentified objects near critical infrastructure and military sites, reflecting a national security bias.\n- The program received unprecedented access across government for investigations, promoting transparency and cooperation.
Investigate UAPs Like Crime Scenes
- Treat UAP incident investigations like crime scenes with forensic standards for evidence collection.\n- Collaborate closely with local law enforcement to preserve evidence usable in court if necessary.