Episode #270. Shelley interviews Dr Michelle McQuaid on a heart based approach to change

In today’s episode, Shelley is joined by Dr Michelle McQuaid to explore a heart-based approach to change and what it truly means for today’s workplaces. An award-winning researcher, LinkedIn Top Voice for Mental Health and honorary fellow at Melbourne University’s Centre for Wellbeing Science, Michelle is known for translating cutting-edge research into practical strategies that strengthen wellbeing and psychosocial safety. With nine best-selling books, more than 250 podcast interviews, and regular features in Psychology Today, Forbes and global media, Michelle brings both depth and clarity to one of the most pressing conversations of our time.

Together, Shelley and Michelle unpack Melbourne University’s 2025 Workplace Wellbeing Report and examine how constant change is impacting organisations and individuals alike. They discuss the growing risks of burnout and “quiet cracking,” where people appear to be coping on the outside while silently struggling within, often driven by poor change management. The conversation also explores leadership in uncertain times - from authentic vulnerability and owning your growth, to coordinated, system-wide action that makes the invisible visible. By looking at change through the individual, collective and organisational lens, Shelley and Michelle offer practical insights on how we can better support one another and navigate change with compassion and intention.

Grab a copy of Michelle's book: https://www.michellemcquaid.com/shop/

Grab a copy of the workplace report: https://www.michellemcquaid.com/research/

Connect with Michelle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chellemcquaid/

Connect with Shelley: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/⁠⁠

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Shelley books: https://www.shelleyflett.com/shop