Secular scientist and academic John Hands has been described as a 'polymath'. His 2016 book Cosmosapiens received wide praise for its analysis of human evolution since the beginning of the universe. His new book 'The Future of Humankind' looks ahead to what lies in store for homosapiens.

He discusses the issues with Christian thinker Perry Marshall, author of Evolution 2.0, as they discuss whether the dangers posed by AI, climate change or conflict are likely to lead to extinction, or whether we are due for a further development of human consciousness.

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Optimism or extinction? What’s the future of humanity? John Hands & Perry Marshall