Live from CITCON, the hosts dive into the intriguing integration of non-Agile methodologies like CBT and Lean practices. They tackle the challenges of scaling Agile across teams, emphasizing the need to distinguish business decisions from engineering issues. The conversation heats up with a comparison of collaborating with AI versus humans, highlighting the nuances of working with LLMs. It’s an engaging blend of insights and real-world applications, sparking curiosity and offering practical solutions for listeners.
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This episode, we are at CITCON 2025, answering listeners’ questions live. Join Squirrel, Jeffrey and our live audience as we discuss integrating tools from methodologies beyond Agile, borrowing practices from different domains such as CBT, Lean Manufacturing, and strategic selling, and Squirrel’s spontaneous approach for solving problems.
Links:
- David Burns: https://feelinggood.com/list-of-feeling-good-podcasts/
- CBT: https://beckinstitute.org/
- Shu Ha Ri: https://www.pluralsight.com/tech-blog/shu-ha-ri/
- Red Green Refactor: https://www.jamesshore.com/v2/blog/2005/red-green-refactor
- Boy Scout Rule: https://medium.com/engineering-managers-journal/the-boy-scout-rule-for-better-code-e6ffda090902
- MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
- Thinking, Fast and Slow: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/114683/thinking-fast-and-slow-by-daniel-kahneman/
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About Your Hosts
Douglas Squirrel and Jeffrey Fredrick joined forces at TIM Group in 2013, where they studied and practised the art of management through difficult conversations. Over a decade later, they remain united in their passion for growing profitable organisations through better communication.
Squirrel is an advisor, author, keynote speaker, coach, and consultant, and he's helped over 300 companies of all sizes make huge, profitable improvements in their culture, skills, and processes. You can find out more about his work here: douglassquirrel.com/index.html
Jeffrey is Vice President of Engineering at ION Analytics, Organiser at CITCON, the Continuous Integration and Testing Conference, and is an accomplished author and speaker. You can connect with him here: www.linkedin.com/in/jfredrick/
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