#172, 20 Years Later (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

In this 172nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

First up this week, we discuss Spring and sea stars (also known as starfish, and asteroids). Then we discuss “new” research being discussed in the New York Times which finds that long telomeres shorten life, a prediction made by Bret over 20 years ago. We discuss hypothesis, theory, science and citation, and observe that “science” doesn’t seem to have learned anything from the giant scientific debacle that was the signature of the Covid era. Finally, we discuss modernity, fertility and feminism, and point out—not for the first time—that we cannot go back, but must go forward with caution and care.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Sea stars Lost in the Salish Sea: https://open.substack.com/pub/naturalselections/p/sea-stars-lost-in-the-salish-sea

“Link Between Long Telomeres and Long Life Is a Tall Tale, Study Finds” Gina Kolata in the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/04/health/long-telomeres-age-longevity.html

Weinstein & Ciszek 2002. The reserve-capacity hypothesis: evolutionary origins and modern implications of the trade-off between tumor-suppression and tissue-repair. Experimental gerontology, 37(5): 615-627.http://176.9.41.242/doc/longevity/2002-weinstein.pdf

DeBoy et al 2023. Familial Clonal Hematopoiesis in a Long Telomere Syndrome. New England Journal of Medicine: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2300503

Modernity is Making You Sterile, by Louise Perry in The Spectator: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/modernity-is-making-you-sterile/

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