Mitochondria and Why We Need The Cell Danger Response | Robert Naviaux, MD
Nov 11, 2023
auto_awesome
Robert Naviaux, MD, the Discoverer of the Cell Danger Response, discusses the underlying driver of chronic illness, the two-sided physiology that keeps us fit and healthy but can also make us ill, 2 pathways of disease that are often overlooked, and a new approach to medicine that addresses chronic disease.
The cell danger response (CDR) is a shared biological response that perpetuates chronic illnesses, challenging traditional pathogenesis models and highlighting the importance of studying salugenesis for effective treatments.
Taking an evolutionary perspective on human health and disease reveals a genetic mismatch between our modern environment and our ability to defend and heal, emphasizing the need for salugenesis-based approaches and clinical trials to improve treatments for chronic diseases.
Deep dives
The Cell Danger Response and its Connection to Chronic Diseases
The podcast episode features an interview with Dr. Robert Navio, a renowned physician and researcher who specializes in mitochondrial medicine. Dr. Navio introduces the concept of the cell danger response (CDR), which is the body's natural biological reaction to stress, injury, infection, or threat. The CDR is responsible for triggering various physiological responses that aim to protect and heal the body. Dr. Navio explains that when the threat is slight, the CDR is confined to the affected tissues, but in severe cases or chronic illnesses, the CDR response can involve multiple systems and even affect the brain. Through metabolomic analysis of different complex disorders, Dr. Navio's research has identified dysregulated pathways related to the CDR in a range of chronic diseases, suggesting that these disorders share a common biological response.
Understanding the Causes and Triggers of Cell Danger Response
The podcast delves into the factors that can trigger the cell danger response. Dr. Navio mentions specific triggers such as infections like Lyme disease, EBV, and SARS-CoV-2, as well as hazardous environmental compounds or head trauma. However, he emphasizes that any stress or threat outside the range of normal homeostasis can activate the CDR to varying degrees. Dr. Navio also introduces the concept of pinultimate causes and ultimate causes of illness. Pinultimate causes refer to the specific triggers and environmental factors that initiate the injury and activate the CDR, while ultimate causes focus on the shared biological response that perpetuates chronic illness. This understanding challenges the traditional pathogenesis model and highlights the importance of studying salugenesis, the process of healing, in order to develop effective treatments for chronic diseases.
The Importance of Evolutionary Biology and Insights for Treatments
The podcast episode explores the significance of taking an evolutionary perspective when studying human health and disease. Dr. Navio highlights that our genetic legacy from our ancestors shaped our ability to defend ourselves and heal from injuries, infections, and other threats. However, the modern world exposes us to new factors that push our genetic limits and lead to a mismatch between our genes and the environment. This eco-genetic mismatch can contribute to chronic diseases. To improve treatments, Dr. Navio proposes a paradigm shift to focus on salugenesis-based approaches, acknowledging the body's innate healing capacity. He emphasizes the need for clinical trials to test new therapies and devices, including those addressing ancient danger signals and adaptive systems. Additionally, he mentions the potential role of hormetic stressors, such as physical activities, in perturbing the system and facilitating the healing process. Overall, Dr. Navio advocates for a comprehensive understanding of the body's healing mechanisms to advance medical research and provide effective treatments for chronic illnesses.
In this episode, I’m speaking with Robert Naviaux, MD, Ph.D., the revolutionary mind behind the Cell Danger Response, a landmark contribution to the study of chronic fatigue and other long-term illnesses.
In this podcast, Dr. Naviaux and I discuss:
The true underlying driver of chronic illness, from myalgic encephalomyelitis to Lyme disease to depression (it’s not what you think!)
The fascinating two-sided physiology that keeps you fit and healthy but can also make you incredibly ill
2 pathways of disease that no one is discussing and how to ensure your body is resolving dysfunction instead of keeping you sick
A new approach to medicine that will forever change the way we (successfully!) address chronic disease…and steps you can take today
Get the Snipd podcast app
Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
AI-powered podcast player
Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features
Discover highlights
Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode
Save any moment
Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways
Share & Export
Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more
AI-powered podcast player
Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features
Discover highlights
Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode