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Have ever tried to hold a conversation with someone and noticed that they haven’t actually been listening to you? Or maybe you’ve noticed you haven’t actually been listening yourself? Well, this issue runs a lot deeper than you probably realize, and this week we’re here to talk about it.

Matt kicks things off with a FOUR HOUR conversation he had with some of our patrons in the discord after last week’s recording. He tells us about the general state of conversations today, and the impressive communicator he met at an event that sparked this train of thought. We talk about the shift in how we talk to people across the board, and the growing list of things that don’t even require human interaction anymore.

Then Kevin highlights the absolute WORST way to interview someone, and the clear similarities that has to everyday interactions. We talk about the critical importance of listening and how that should shape conversation, and we relate that to our near five-year run in doing just that on this show.

Unfortunately, though, there may not be a whole lot we can do about it – not deliberately at least. Kevin emphasizes the need for natural change, Matt talks about the loss of community activities, and we come to some tragic realizations about how it shapes storytelling today.

After that, Matt tells a uniquely personal story about bowling and ice cream, and we talk about how experiences like that shape artists. We dive into the apparent lack of writers with those kinds of experiences, and how that shows up in pretty much all popular media these days.

We round out the episode by talking about the importance of surprise and discomfort, the tragic inability to “tickle yourself,” and the surprising importance of HANDS. It all makes a lot more sense than you might think, trust us.

Thanks to everyone who tuned in live, and a special shout out to all of our patrons. You make this show happen. We’ll see you all again next week!

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CREDITS: 

Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor 

Produced and Edited by Ben Webster

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Opening Animation: Kidmograph 

City Animation: Eric Langlay 

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