

How Indonesia Sees the World
Jul 18, 2025
Former Indonesian Vice Foreign Minister Dino Patti Djalal shares insights on Indonesia's global role as the world's largest Muslim-majority democracy. He discusses Indonesia's strategic balancing act with China while navigating tensions in Southeast Asia. Djalal also reflects on how U.S. foreign policy changes could influence Indonesia, particularly in trade relationships and regional stability. He highlights Indonesia's evolving stance on the Israeli-Gaza conflict and its ambitions within frameworks like BRICS, advocating for a rules-based global order.
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Indonesia's Strategic Role in Southeast Asia
- Indonesia is a critical player in Southeast Asia due to its population, democracy, and Muslim majority.
- U.S. engagement in the region must effectively "dance" with Indonesia to be successful.
U.S. Retreat Weakens Global Cooperation
- The U.S. is retreating from global leadership under Trump, impacting important international cooperation.
- This retreat weakens institutions addressing migration, health, climate, and more.
Indonesia's Concern Over U.S. Withdrawal
- A world without U.S. leadership worries Indonesia deeply.
- The U.S. retreat opens space for other powers like China and India to step up.