Stoicism: Philosophy as a Way of Life Podcast

The Rescuer Trap: Treehouse of Sadness: Codependency and Depression

Nov 26, 2025
Delve into the intricate dynamics of codependency and depression. Learn how the impulse to 'fix' a partner can lead to emotional sinking. Discover the importance of reciprocity in relationships and the dangers of over-helping. The hosts explore Stoic principles about control, urging listeners to break free from the rescuer role. They tackle emotional avoidance and societal pressures that fuel unrealistic expectations. Practical strategies for reclaiming autonomy are shared, challenging you to reassess your relational patterns.
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INSIGHT

Depression Spreads In Relationships

  • Dating someone with major depression often increases your own risk of becoming depressed.
  • Kasey Pierce and Dr. Scott Waltman note the relationship burden can be literally contagious.
ANECDOTE

Porch Conversations That Go Nowhere

  • Kasey describes repeated porch conversations where her partner shuts down for hours and offers self-blame instead of accountability.
  • She felt compelled to fix the situation but repeatedly ended up frustrated and stuck.
INSIGHT

Rescue Roles Polarize Couples

  • Rescue attempts polarize partners into helper and patient roles and worsen both sides.
  • Dr. Scott Waltman explains lack of reciprocity in relationships fuels depression and relational decline.
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