The Likeability Penalty, Habits - Design For How People Learn & Change with Julie Dirksen

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This episode took some unexpected turns, turns which will give anyone interested in change at an individual or systemic level food for thought.

You can explain skills to people, but can you ever do this to the extent that the other person will be proficient without practice?

Julie and Ben spoke about how unjust the world can be as Julie shared the details of a study that explains how the Likeability penalty explains why many women have long been paid less.

If you are serious is helping individuals and organisations change for good then this episode has so much for you. Don't believe us, check this out...

Chapters:

• 00:05:03 Importance Of System-level Feedback & Forming Habits
• 00:08:54 Inequality in Starting Salaries Due to Gender - Individual Vs. System Perspective.
• 00:11:24 The Gender Dynamics Of Salary Negotiations
• 00:15:20 Systemic Understanding For Effective Learning Interventions
• 00:17:32 Challenges Of Measuring The Effectiveness Of Behavior Change Without Feedback
• 00:20:32 Anxiety Surrounding Coaching Conversations
• 00:24:36 The Benefits Of Demonstrations Over Instructions In Learning.
• 00:28:53 The Limits Of Ai In Replacing Doctors: Strategies For Teaching And Learning
• 00:32:01 How many examples are enough to help you learn?
• 00:35:27 Will Ben & Julie Start a career in Stand Up Comedy?
• 00:41:12 The End and Episode Recap!

Guest Bio

Julie is an independent consultant and instructional designer with over 15 years of experience creating highly interactive e-learning experiences for clients from Fortune 500 companies and technology startups.

She has a degree in Instructional Systems Technology and a whole lot of background in things like UX design, game-based learning, and behaviour change.

Julie has also been an adjunct faculty member in the Visualization Department at the Minneapolis College of Art and Design, where I created and taught courses in project management, instructional design, and cognitive psychology.

Julie likes learning :-)

Julies website - https://usablelearning.com/ - https://usablelearning.com/
Courses https://des

Host Bio

Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.

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