
 Wild at Heart
 Wild at Heart E846 | How Can You Survive Without...? - Part 2
 Oct 20, 2025 
 Mary Ellen Owen, a licensed therapist specializing in grief and spiritual formation, joins the discussion about surviving without vital connections. She uncovers the pervasive numbness and anxiety felt by many, especially the younger generation. Mary Ellen emphasizes the importance of a 'practice of grief,' explaining how ungrieved pain can manifest as depression. Throughout their conversation, they explore the courage it takes to confront grief and the transformative power it holds when we invite the divine into our healing process. 
 AI Snips 
 Chapters 
 Books 
 Transcript 
 Episode notes 
Numbness Masks Deeper Loss
- Mary Ellen observes widespread numbness and anxiety as people avoid grief and deeper feeling.
- She links busyness and dissociation to a strategy that keeps people from turning toward soul ache.
Ungrieved Grief Is The Hidden Core
- Mary Ellen identifies ungrieved, ambiguous grief as a common hidden wound people avoid.
- She says practicing grief is the entry point to groundedness and renewed soul health.
Movie Moment That Opened Hidden Grief
- John describes bawling in a theater listening to the line about loved ones gone but still reaching out.
- That moment opened him to long‑buried losses and began his journey toward grieving and compassion.



