
Energy Gang What happened at COP30? The key points on cutting emissions, adapting to a warming world, and raising the finance to pay for it
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Nov 25, 2025 In a deep dive into COP30 outcomes, guests include Amy Harder, a national energy correspondent at Axios, Lisa Jacobson, president of the Business Council for Sustainable Energy, Simon Evans, deputy editor at Carbon Brief, and Gianpiero Nacci, managing director at the EBRD. They discuss the contentious fossil fuel negotiations and the focus on climate adaptation. Key topics include a pledge to triple adaptation finance by 2035, the challenges of funding, and China's dual role as a clean-tech leader while expanding coal. What does this mean for future climate action?
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COP30 Kept The Process Alive
- COP30 was more about keeping multilateral climate cooperation alive than delivering breakthrough outcomes.
- Delegates delivered a modest deal that preserved momentum but disappointed many expecting stronger action.
Amazon Venue Made Impacts Tangible
- Lisa Jacobson described COP30's Amazon setting as intentionally uncomfortable to highlight forest issues.
- She noted delegates felt the heat and gained direct exposure to what billions already experience.
Mobilize Private Capital Through De‑Risking
- Drive private capital toward adaptation by de-risking projects and improving investment environments.
- Use MDBs and public finance to close gaps so private investors can scale solutions.
