From VeggieTales to the Enneagram: Mike Nawrocki on Peace, Presence, and Purpose

Aug 7, 2025

In this engaging conversation, Mike Nawrocki, co-creator of VeggieTales and voice of Larry the Cucumber, shares his insights as a creative voice and Enneagram Nine. He discusses the Peacemaker's traits, exploring how they navigate conflict and seek authenticity. Mike reflects on storytelling's power in projects like VeggieTales and Dead Sea Squirrels, revealing the significance of self-awareness in personal growth. Additionally, he shares anecdotes about his journey from animation to teaching, underlining the importance of embracing one’s identity and presence.

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Mike's Peace-Seeking Childhood

Mike Nawrocki shared about growing up in a military family with frequent moves and close relationships with his brothers.
He described being a busy, peace-seeking kid who tried to make his family laugh and calm situations.

INSIGHT

Nines Avoid Conflict and Anger

Enneagram 9s are motivated to maintain harmony and tend to avoid conflict.
They often ask, "Who's angry?" and may lean more towards sadness than anger themselves.

ANECDOTE

Anger Held Back Until Fuse Burns

Mike described avoiding anger and holding back emotions until his anger fuse ran out.
His wife needed to see emotion to know he cared, which brought important awareness.

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What happens when a peace-seeking Enneagram Nine becomes the voice of one of the most beloved animated characters in children’s television?

Find out as we dive into the world of the Enneagram with special guest Mike Nawrocki, co-creator of VeggieTales and the voice of Larry the Cucumber. In this engaging conversation, we explore the unique traits of Enneagram Nines, known as the Peacemakers.

Mike shares insights from his journey in creating beloved children's content, including his latest project, The Dead Sea Squirrels, which is now a growing book series and animated show. We discuss the motivations behind Nines, their tendency to avoid conflict, and the importance of claiming one's voice and presence in the world.

Whether you're familiar with the Enneagram or just curious about personality types, this episode offers valuable perspectives on self-awareness, personal growth, and the power of creativity. Don't miss this opportunity to learn more about the Enneagram and how it can enhance your understanding of yourself and others!

ABOUT MIKE NAWROCKI

As co-creator of VeggieTales, co-founder of Big Idea Entertainment, and the voice of Larry the Cucumber, Mike Nawrocki has been dedicated to helping parents pass on biblical values to their kids for over three decades. Mike is the offbeat brain behind Silly Songs with Larry, and has lent his screenwriting and directing talents to dozens of VeggieTales episodes, as well as both of the properties’ theatrical releases, Jonah and The Pirates Who Don’t Do Anything. His most recent project, an early reader book series entitled The Dead Sea Squirrels, has been adapted into a 13-episode animated series now streaming on Minno, with more books and a season 2 of animation currently in the works. Mike also serves as an assistant professor of film and animation at Lipscomb University in Nashville, TN, and co-hosts the weekly podcast, “The Bible for Kids.” Website: https://mikenawrocki.com/ and Amazon Author PageFollow on: Instagram | Facebook