Typology
Ian Morgan Cron
Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theologians, artists, business leaders, neuroscientists, philosophers, and more. In other words, we'll be talking with people who are trying to become the best version of themselves in the world.
Episodes
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Nov 13, 2025 • 55min
Steve Taylor on Maturity, Mindfulness & Meaning (Enneagram 7)
Steve Taylor, a filmmaker, writer, and professor known for his creative provocations, explores the depths of aging and spiritual maturity. He shares his journey of shifting from a possibility mindset to embracing life's limits at 67. Steve discusses the importance of compassion, the struggle with dark emotions, and the balance between ambition and presence. He reflects on the legacy he aims to leave as an encourager and the unfinished projects still chasing him. This conversation is rich with insights on emotional intelligence and the inner work of becoming whole.
Nov 6, 2025 • 1h 4min
Wild Courage and the Heart of the Enneagram Three, with Jenny Wood and Carlina Daugherty
Join Jenny Wood, a former Google executive and bestselling author, along with her Chief of Staff, Carlina Daugherty, as they dive into the complexities of ambition and fear. They uncover how fear, not talent, often blocks success and introduce the nine 'wild' traits fueling courageous leadership. Jenny shares her candid journey of self-awareness as an Enneagram Three, exploring the balance between personal brand and authenticity. Their heartfelt conversation reveals that true success lies in relationships and presence rather than mere achievement.
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Oct 30, 2025 • 55min
Joel Miller on the Inner World of the Enneagram Five and the Power of Ideas
Joel J. Miller, a publishing veteran and author of The Idea Machine, dives into the intricate mind of the Enneagram Five. He shares how Fives navigate the balance between intellect and intimacy, often using books as a connection mechanism. Joel discusses his marriage with a Type Four, revealing how it helps him engage more deeply with emotions. He emphasizes the importance of moving from mere information sharing to meaningful relationships, and how literature can influence both thought and personal connections, transforming the Five’s inner world.
Oct 23, 2025 • 1h 6min
Bad Thoughts: When a Preacher and a Shrink Team Up to Heal the Mind and Soul, with Judah Smith and Dr. Les Parrott and
Join Dr. Les Parrott, a clinical psychologist and bestselling author, along with Judah Smith, a dynamic pastor and communicator. They explore the five toxic thought patterns—guilt, shame, insecurity, entitlement, and unworthiness—and how reframing these can lead to healing. Judah shares personal struggles with his inner critic, and they discuss the church's potential to embody vulnerability akin to AA meetings. Their engaging conversation weaves together spirituality and psychology, shedding light on transforming harmful thoughts into growth.
Oct 16, 2025 • 44min
How Empathy Helps Us Experience Love Deeply, with Drs. Bill & Kristi Gaultiere
Drs. Bill and Kristi Gaultiere, therapists and spiritual directors from Soul Shepherding, delve into the power of empathy in fostering deep love. They reveal how shame and emotional wounds hinder our ability to receive love. With insights from their book, they discuss the importance of self-empathy and how various Enneagram types uniquely struggle with it. The Gaultieres also differentiate between tactical and transformational empathy and explore how experiencing God’s empathy can bring healing, even amid suffering.
Oct 9, 2025 • 36min
Discover Your Instinctual Stack, with Elan Benami, EnneaApp Creator
Elan Benami, a licensed professional counselor and the creator of the EnneaApp, shares insights into the Enneagram's instinctual stack. He discusses the three instincts—self-preservation, social, and one-to-one—and their impact on behavior. Elan explains how these instincts shape subtypes and influence personal dynamics. Drawing on his experiences as a self-preservation Six, he illustrates how differing dominant instincts can create relationship challenges. This engaging conversation helps listeners deepen their Enneagram understanding and self-awareness.
Oct 2, 2025 • 56min
Why Love Feels Addictive: Enneagram Insights with Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby
Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby is a licensed marriage and family therapist, author of "Exaholics," and founder of Growing Self Counseling. In this engaging discussion, she unpacks why love can feel addictive, linking it to our biological wiring for attachment. Lisa explores how different Enneagram types interact in relationships, exposing myths of compatibility and power dynamics. She offers insights on spotting blind spots in partnerships and shares practical exercises for understanding and improving relational patterns. A hopeful conversation about love, healing, and growth!
Sep 25, 2025 • 49min
One Choice Away: Justin and Trisha Davis on Marriage, Forgiveness, and the Enneagram (Types 8 & 3)
Justin Davis, a pastor and co-founder of RefineUs Ministries, and Trisha Davis, also a pastor and author, share their powerful journey through marriage struggles. They discuss the nuances of their Enneagram types—Eights and Threes—unpacking how these dynamics played out in their relationship. The couple reflects on the importance of vulnerability, healing through grief, and the non-linear process of forgiveness. Their insights offer practical steps for anyone seeking to transform their relationships through intentional choices and genuine presence.
Sep 19, 2025 • 1h 7min
Wired for Relationship: Attachment Theory and Spiritual Growth with Dr. Todd Hall
Dr. Todd Hall, a licensed clinical psychologist and professor, dives into the fascinating interplay between attachment theory and spirituality. He reveals how our early bonds shape our emotional health and relationships with others and God. Hall discusses the four attachment styles and offers insights on how to navigate them for healing. He connects attachment patterns with the Enneagram, exploring their implications for personal growth. With practical spiritual practices, he highlights pathways to rewire relational styles towards security and deeper connections.
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Sep 11, 2025 • 59min
The Art of Listening: An Eight Step Approach to Connection with Emily Kasriel
Emily Kasriel, an award-winning journalist and executive coach, shares her insights on deep listening, drawn from her extensive experience at the BBC. She discusses her eight-step approach to enhance listening skills, highlighting its role in fostering connection and empathy. Topics include the interplay of personality types through the Enneagram, stories that invoke emotional understanding, and the importance of psychological safety in conversations. Kasriel's reflections on self-awareness and curiosity offer transformative tools for improving relationships.
