
Typology
Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theologians, artists, business leaders, neuroscientists, philosophers, and more. In other words, we’ll be talking with people who are trying to become the best version of themselves in the world.
Latest episodes

Jun 26, 2025 • 37min
The Stories That Shape Us, feat. Melanie Shankle (Enneagram 9)
In this engaging conversation, Melanie Shankle, a three-time New York Times bestselling author and co-host of the Big Boo cast, shares her journey of self-discovery and healing in light of her turbulent childhood. She discusses the struggle with people-pleasing patterns and the transformative power of writing her latest book, 'Here Be Dragons'. Listeners explore how generational trauma impacts family dynamics, the importance of forgiveness, and the challenges of parenting while embracing grace and compassion. A heartfelt exploration of personal growth awaits!

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Jun 19, 2025 • 40min
Joy, Suffering, and the Spirit Who Holds It All – with Margaret Feinberg (Enneagram 7w8)
In this vibrant discussion, guest Margaret Feinberg, an author and Enneagram 7w8, shares insights from her latest book, 'The God You Need to Know.' She talks about redefining joy amidst her cancer journey and the deep connection between joy and suffering. Margaret explores the Holy Spirit’s transformative presence in both high and low moments, and reflects on her experiences with ADHD and relationships, particularly with her Type 5 partner. Dive into a conversation that celebrates personal growth while navigating life’s complexities.

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Jun 12, 2025 • 43min
The Inner World of a 4w5: The Creative Struggle for Authenticity with Hanna HowardDraft: Hanna Howard
In this engaging conversation, Hanna Howard, author of 'Our Divine Mischief,' explores her journey as an Enneagram Four with a Five wing. She shares the emotional depth and introspection that shape her creativity, discussing the quest for authenticity woven throughout her work. Hanna reflects on the tension between her emotional world and analytical mind, and the artistic vulnerability that emerges from it. The chat delves into the theme of belonging and how her unique experiences influence her storytelling, leading to heartfelt and authentic narratives.

Jun 5, 2025 • 55min
Understanding Your Conflict Style: Enneagram Insights with Dr. James Ginn
Join conflict resolution specialist James Ginn, author of 'How to Get Along with Anyone,' as he unpacks the intricacies of conflict styles: Avoiders, Competitors, Collaborators, Accommodators, and Analyzers. Discover how different personality types influence conflict reactions and learn about task, process, and relational conflicts. Ginn offers practical strategies for navigating disagreements and emphasizes the vital role of emotional intelligence. This engaging discussion is a must for anyone looking to enhance their relationships and conflict management skills!

May 31, 2025 • 42min
When “Enough” Is More Than Money: An Enneagram One’s Journey, feat. Elizabeth Husserl
Elizabeth Husserl, author of 'The Power of Enough' and co-founder of Peak 360, shares her transformative journey through the Enneagram as an Enneagram One with a Two wing. She redefines wealth beyond money, emphasizing connection and emotional fulfillment. The discussion reveals how our financial narratives shape relationships and personal well-being. Elizabeth encourages listeners to discover their own definitions of 'enough' and offers practical insights for breaking free from negative money cycles, fostering a more joyful relationship with financial abundance.

May 22, 2025 • 48min
Dr. Morgan Cutlip on Tackling the Invisible Burden of the Mental Load Among Couples
Dr. Morgan Cutlip, an Enneagram 9 and author of 'A Better Share', dives into the complexities of the mental load in relationships. She shares her insights on how her Enneagram type shapes her dynamic with her Type 3 husband. Key discussions include navigating resentment and the importance of equitable division of responsibilities. Morgan offers practical strategies for couples to enhance communication and intimacy, emphasizing the impact of personality types on relationship dynamics. This engaging conversation is a treasure trove of insights for anyone seeking balance in their partnerships!

May 15, 2025 • 60min
From Conflict to Connection: Transforming Relationships Through the Enneagram with Christa Hardin, MA
In this episode of Typology, we take a look at the fascinating intersection of the Enneagram and relationships with our special guest, Crista Hardin, a relationship expert and author of "The Enneagram in Marriage." Christa, an Enneagram 7, brings her vibrant energy and insights to the conversation, discussing how her type influences her marriage and her work with couples. We explore the complexities of anxiety in Sevens, the importance of understanding core fears in relationships, and how different Enneagram types interact with one another. Christa shares her personal experiences, including her journey through marriage and the challenges she and her husband have faced over nearly 30 years together. Throughout the episode, we touch on the dynamics of various type pairings, the challenges and transformations that can arise in relationships, and the significance of emotional regulation and understanding in conflict resolution. Christa emphasizes the importance of recognizing our own flaws and the value of shared meaning in relationships. Join us for this enlightening discussion that not only sheds light on the Enneagram but also offers practical insights for navigating the complexities of love and partnership. Don't forget to check out Christa's podcast, "Enneagram and Marriage," and her website for more resources! You can find Christa's website, blog, freebies, and Enneagram & Marriage podcast links at www.enneagramandmarriage.com. PREFER TO WATCH THIS INTERVIEW? Check us out on YouTube ========================================================== DISCOVER YOUR ENNEAGRAM TYPE The Typology Institute Enneagram Assessment reveals more than just your type. You'll learn your dominant wing, subtype, stance, instinct, orientation to time, and much more. Take 10% off with the discount code TYPOLOGYPODCAST today. CONNECT WITH IAN: Website | Online Courses | The Fix Follow Ian on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn and TikTok Follow Typology on Instagram and Facebook

May 9, 2025 • 56min
Underestimated: Mary Marantz on Embracing Fear and Moving Forward
This week we welcome the incredible Mary Marantz, an Enneagram 4 and author of the new book, Underestimated: The Surprisingly Simple Shift to Quit Playing Small, Name the Fear, and Move Forward Anyway. In this episode, we dive deep into the transformative power of understanding our Enneagram types and how they shape our narratives. Mary shares her personal journey of self-discovery, revealing how she once identified as a self-preserving 4 and the profound impact that realization had on her life. We explore the moments in our childhoods that made us feel different, the stories we tell ourselves, and how those narratives can either limit or liberate us. Mary opens up about her experiences growing up in rural West Virginia and how they influenced her drive for perfectionism and the need to be seen and valued. Here are some highlights you won’t want to miss: The significance of recognizing our core longings and how they shape our identities. A candid discussion on the fears that hold us back, including perfectionism, people-pleasing, and imposter syndrome. Insights into how we can redefine what a "big life" means for us, moving beyond societal expectations. Mary’s wisdom and vulnerability shine through as she encourages us to embrace our stories, both the beautiful and the painful. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to understand themselves better and to find the courage to move forward. Tune in now to hear this enlightening conversation and discover how you can start to shift your own narrative!

May 7, 2025 • 51min
From Codependency to Self-Discovery: Thais Gibson on the Path of an Enneagram Two
In this episode of Typology, we dive deep into the world of the Enneagram with our special guest, Thais Gibson, an Enneagram Two with a Three wing. Thais is a counselor, best-selling author, and co-founder of the Personal Development School, bringing a wealth of knowledge and experience to our conversation. Join Ian Cron and co-host Anthony Skinner as they explore Thais's journey of self-discovery, healing, and the challenges of being a Two. Thais shares her insights on codependency, the importance of setting boundaries, and how her experiences with pain have shaped her understanding of personal growth. We also discuss the intersection of addiction and attachment theory, revealing how our early experiences influence our relationships with ourselves and others. Thais offers valuable strategies for transforming maladaptive behaviors and fostering a secure attachment to both ourselves and the divine. Whether you're familiar with the Enneagram or just starting your journey, this episode is packed with wisdom and practical advice for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of themselves and their relationships. Key Topics: Thais's journey as an Enneagram Two The impact of childhood experiences on adult relationships Codependency and the importance of boundaries Healing through pain and personal growth Attachment theory and its relevance to addiction Strategies for fostering secure attachments Don't miss this rich conversation that promises to inspire and empower you on your personal development journey! Subscribe for more episodes exploring the mystery of human personality through the lens of the Enneagram.

Apr 24, 2025 • 51min
The Audacity to Be You: Embracing Your True Self, feat. Dr. Brad Reedy
In this powerful episode of Typology, I’m honored to sit down with Enneagram 8, Dr. Brad Reedy, co-founder and chief clinical officer of Finding You Therapy Programs, Together, we explore the profound impact of therapy and self-acceptance on the transformative journey of self-discovery and healing. Brad opens up about his journey as a therapist and how his work has profoundly impacted families, including my own. We dive into his flagship program, Finding You, which offers an immersive experience designed to help participants explore their family of origin and understand how their past shapes their present. One of the most powerful themes we discuss is the importance of vulnerability. Brad shares a poignant insight from his therapist: “The suicidal impulse is correct, but the mistake is thinking you have to kill the whole self. You just need to learn which part of yourself needs to die.” This profound perspective can help us all recognize that our greatest weaknesses can become our greatest assets. We also touch on the Enneagram and how understanding our core motivations can lead to deeper self-awareness and healthier relationships. Brad’s candid reflections on his own struggles with vulnerability and the journey of self-acceptance are both inspiring and relatable. Whether you’re familiar with the Enneagram or just starting your journey of self-discovery, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we explore the audacity to be ourselves and learn to love our “horrible, rotten selves.” Tune in now to hear this rich conversation and discover how you can apply these insights to your own life.