The lead singer of the iconic rock band The Smashing Pumpkins and owner of the legendary pro wrestling organization NWA joins Ariel for a wide-ranging conversation about the business of professional wrestling. The guys discuss:

• When he first fell in love with pro wrestling (6:14)
• His messy fallout with TNA Impact in 2016 (16:20)
• Why he decided to buy NWA in 2017 (22:50)
• The difference between MMA and pro wrestling fans (31:00)
• Why NWA doesn't script promos (37:45)
• Plans for NWA 74 on August 27/28 (51:53)

And much more!

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