How can leaders evolve from simply managing tasks to inspiring their teams? Hans-Werner Kaas suggests it takes more than technical expertise. He joins Kevin to discuss what it means to lead from the inside out, understanding yourself first to effectively lead others. He highlights the importance of human-centric leadership, emphasizing the need for self-awareness, humility, and resilience. Hans-Werner talks about the transition from the "imperial CEO" of the past to today's leaders, who must be more versatile, empathetic, and collaborative. He also shares advice on how to get honest feedback from your team.

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00:08 Introduction and Overview 01:26 Kevin Introduces Hans-Werner Kaas 02:30 Hans-Werner’s Career Journey 03:32 From Engineering to Leadership Consulting 05:26 Opening McKinsey’s Detroit Office 06:04 Insights on Leadership and Inspirational Leadership 07:53 Introduction to ‘The Journey of Leadership’ Book 09:08 The Fall of the Imperial CEO 12:04 Human-Centric Leadership 12:52 Leading from the Inside Out 16:04 Self-Assessment and Feedback for Leaders 19:24 Importance of Humility in Leadership 21:01 Versatility and Leadership Flexibility 24:51 Applying Leadership Traits in Organizations 25:21 The Role of Boldness and Empowerment 26:24 Fearless Learning with Navy SEAL Insights 29:56 Lessons for Non-CEOs 32:21 Hans-Werner’s Personal Interests and Hobbies 34:52 Books and Reading Recommendations 37:06 Closing Remarks and How to Learn More 38:57 Kevin’s Final Thoughts: Taking Action

Book Recommendations

• The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs Learn to Lead from the Inside Out by Dana Maor, Hans-Werner Kaas, Kurt Strovink, Ramesh Srinivasan 
• Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity by Peter Attia MD with Bill Gifford
• Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America by Heather Cox Richardson 
• Age of Revolutions: Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present by Fareed Zakaria

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