

Ep 71: Injecting Social Mobility Into the Carnegie Classifications
Feb 22, 2022
Tim Knowles leads the Carnegie Foundation, focusing on modernizing classifications for colleges, while Ted Mitchell heads the ACE, advocating for equity. They discuss the urgent need to prioritize social mobility and racial equity in higher education rankings. Brendan Cantwell introduces a critical view on social mobility rankings, warning of unintended consequences and questioning the methodology behind attributing success to colleges. The conversation delves into governance and the importance of avoiding prestige-chasing in rankings.
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Carnegie-ACE Partnership Focuses Mobility
- The Carnegie classifications are being redesigned with ACE to better serve policy and institutional utility.
- Tim Knowles and Ted Mitchell emphasize social and economic mobility as a central goal for the refresh.
Typology Versus De Facto Ranking
- The classifications have created useful typologies but also been treated like rankings.
- Tim Knowles warns that R1 became a "gold standard" people chase despite classifications not being rankings.
Multiple Lanes Of Institutional Excellence
- A broader suite of classifications can recognize different forms of institutional excellence.
- Ted Mitchell highlights HBCUs and regional comprehensives as engines of mobility that deserve distinct recognition.