Humans On The Loop 104 - The Hypermoderns Talk Snow Crash, Language, Mind, & Video Game Metaphysics
This week, we have a rad roundtable conversation with The Hypermoderns – John David Ebert, Michael Aaron Kamins, and Mimetic Value/Ikkyu Sojun) where we talk Snow Crash, Linguistic Entropy, and The Metaphysics of Video Games; spoil Meow Wolf and Annihilation (warning!); and go deep on the origins of Hypnotherapy and NLP. It’s just part one of an intense three-hour hoedown with some of the sharpest minds I know…
The Guests in Order of Appearance:
Michael Aaron Kamins
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John David Ebert
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Ikkyu Sojun
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We Talk About:
Michael Aaron Kamins:
“Shigiro Miyamoto is the Dante of the Hypermodern Age.”
Mario is a shaman, Link is Percival of the Round Table…
NextNature.net, the Anthropocene, and the Wood Wide Web
Are videogames more effective than books as a form of storytelling?
John David Ebert likes Grand Theft Auto:
“Video games aren’t the problem; they’re the SOLUTION to the problem of living in these bizarre cosmopolitan cities, these huge megalopolitan cities that we’re constantly stressed out by.”
Narrative collapse in the shift from the serialized dramas of print-era TV and the reality shows of web-era TV
Michael Aaron Kamins:
“What does the hero’s journey mean in a world where we have to work 9-to-5 jobs?”
Skeumorphism in digital spaces:
Video games that mimic office life seem inevitable…
…but unlike in Snow Crash, we don’t want to walk everywhere in VR.
Lists, Explosions, & Flows
Why Michael Aaron Kamins disagrees with Daniel Pinchbeck about UFOs.
If Jordan Peterson is our Confucius, who is our Lao Tzu?
MG:
“History is a thing that you make.”
JDE:
“We’ve lost the metaphysics. We have to bring back the metaphysics.”
Why and how civilizations disintegrate.
MG:
“If you’re going to upload me, at least upload me in HD.”
JDE:
“It’s gotta get more fractal.”
Meow Wolf is The Shimmer in Annihilation
Archangel Michael & Garuda, archetypes expressed across the world in time and landscape
Michael and Michael talk about the dragon fighting St. Michael meteor-dinosaur connection thing.
Everybody tries to guess MG’s sign.
Dr Blue aka Norman Katz, student of Milton Erickson
Jungian vs Ericksonian psychotherapy and the importance of combining the two.
We talk smack on the sociopathic founders of NLP.
Mimetic theory.
Evolution, entropy, and the Tower of Babel.
Shout-Outs:
RadioLab
Douglas Rushkoff
Pac Man
Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Carl Jung’s Red Book
Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash
Google Glass
Kevin Kelly
William Burroughs
Meow Wolf
Rudolf Steiner
“The Fighting Dinosaurs”
Paleontologist Robert Bakker
Houston Museum of Nature & Science
Timothy Leary
The Fourth Turning
History, Big History, and MetaHistory by SFI Press
Being John Malkovich
Gilles Deleuze
Peter Sloterdijk
The Joseph Campbell Foundation
Robertson Jeffers
Jon Steinbeck
Buddha Bomb
Timothy Morton’s Hyperobjects
Tom Hui Hu - A Prehistory of the Cloud
The Square in the Tower by Neil Ferguson
The Architects of the Internet Apologize - New Yorker Magazine
Jeff Van Der Meer
Tool & Alex Grey
Parvati
Scott Adams
NLP
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