

Ep. 105: Thinking Clearly on Money and Debt
Sep 12, 2025
Dive into the complexities of money and debt management, where traditional banking clashes with modern innovations like blockchain. Explore Bitcoin's challenge to conventional economic narratives and the evolution of monetary systems. Unpack the concept of money as debt and its ties to Federal Reserve practices. Discover the historical journey from gold-backed currency to today's fiat systems, and see how Ludwig von Mises' insights illuminate Bitcoin's place in the financial landscape. Prepare for a fresh perspective on the future of currency!
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New Examples Don't Replace Classic Theory
- Modern tech and banking experts often conflate ledger-based money with the essence of money itself.
- Robert Murphy argues older frameworks generalize better and avoid paradoxes when analyzing money and debt.
Graeber's Credit-First Claim
- David Graeber argued credit systems predated money, reversing the textbook barter→money→credit story.
- Murphy recounts Graeber's claim and previews his disagreement with its empirical basis.
Money-As-Debt Is Circular If Unpacked
- Saying "money is debt" compresses layers and creates conceptual circularity.
- Murphy shows deposits and Fed notes are liabilities but distinguishes liabilities from base money.