Hot Data, Cold Markets: Navigating the Fed, Economy, and Technology Trends

Show from 01/10/25 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel kicked off the episode by discussing the robust job market, the recent surge in inflationary expectations linked to tariffs, and the outlook on interest rates amid real growth concerns. Professor Siegel noted the resilience of commodity prices, the potential for higher long-term rates, and his skepticism about significant rate cuts in 2025, despite positive corporate earnings reports. He also highlighted the impact of rising real rates on stock valuations and his cautious stance on S&P growth projections. (16:08) Jeremy then shifted the conversation to macro strategists Sam Rines and Chris Gennady. Sam emphasized the positive outlook for leisure, hospitality, and business travel sectors, driven by robust consumer demand and stable cost structures. He also discussed the impacts of interest rate movements on financial stocks and energy prices, highlighting the significance of natural gas production in the U.S. Chris provided insights into the latest tech developments, including quantum computing, robotics, and biotech investments by major chipmakers. The discussion concluded with an overview of currency movements, global geopolitical dynamics, and the importance of energy infrastructure, as well as speculation about Canada's potential political and economic shifts. Guest: Samuel Rines is a Macro Strategist at WisdomTree, where he extends the firm's custom model portfolio management capabilities. Before joining WisdomTree in 2024, he was the Managing Director at CORBU, LLC, leading the PolyMacro advisory product. Christopher Gannatti began at WisdomTree as a Research Analyst in December 2010, working directly with Jeremy Schwartz, CFA®, Director of Research. In January of 2014, he was promoted to Associate Director of Research where he was responsible to lead different groups of analysts and strategists within the broader Research team at WisdomTree. In February of 2018, Christopher was promoted to Head of Research, Europe, where he was based out of WisdomTree’s London office and was responsible for the full WisdomTree research effort within the European market, as well as supporting the UCITs platform globally. In November 2021, Christopher was promoted to Global Head of Research, now responsible for numerous communications on investment strategy globally, particularly in the thematic equity space Follow Sam Rines on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Follow Chri Gannatti on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Wisdom Tree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investmen