Sir Steve Hansen is one of the greatest All Black coaches of all time. He is a true legend of the game.

The stats don’t lie:

+ 107 test matches as head coach over 8 seasons

+ Only 10 losses, for a win record of 87%

+ World rugby coach of the year 4 times.

+ Two Halberg awards for NZ coach of the year.

In this exclusive and very rare podcast appearance from the man known as “Shag” he opens up about the moments he got it wrong, his thoughts on what makes a great leader, the art of difficult conversations, the time Keven Mealamu told him off, why he warned Richie McCaw he was going to cost the All Blacks the 2015 Rugby World Cup and plenty more rugby stuff.

We also talk about some deeply personal stuff, like his wife Tash’s cancer journey and how that changed his outlook on life.

This will possibly be a side of Sir Steve Hansen that you have never seen before.

Steve’s not just a coaching legend and an inspiring leader, he’s wise, humble, and very funny. I loved our time together and I hope you do too.

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