In this podcast, Corinna and Nina answer important questions about feminism, anger, and gender. They discuss the TERF-Tranny spectrum, the benefits of taboos, and iatrogenic infantilization. They also explore the question of whether 'cis' is a slur and talk about their plans for microdosing testosterone. It's a broad-ranging conversation that covers a wide range of topics!
The distinction between gender as a performance and as an innate identity is a complex topic that continues to be debated.
Balancing the rejection of harmful stereotypes with an appreciation for genuine differences in socialization and behavior is an ongoing challenge.
Deep dives
The influence of second wave feminism and the sex/gender distinction
Second wave feminism, particularly the distinction made between sex and gender, has had a significant impact on societal development. The idea that gender is a social construct separate from biological sex has been instrumental in shaping discussions and understanding of gender identity. It has provided a framework for examining the influence of socialization and societal expectations on individuals, particularly women. However, the concept of the blank slate and the belief that genders are entirely malleable have also contributed to the rise of gender ideology and the dismissal of biological influences on gender differences. While second wave feminism has been crucial in advocating for women's rights and challenging traditional gender roles, its influence has not been without complications or unintended consequences.
The commodification and performance of gender
An aspect of second wave feminism that has been both empowering and problematic is the focus on gender as a performance. This perspective has shed light on how gender is socially constructed and the ways in which individuals conform to or resist societal expectations. However, it has also contributed to the commodification and pressure to perform gender in specific ways. For example, the emphasis on beauty standards and the expectation for women to wear makeup can create anxiety and perpetuate harmful stereotypes. The distinction between gender as a performance and as an innate identity is a complex topic that continues to be debated.
The impact on socialization and behavior
Second wave feminism has challenged traditional norms and expectations regarding socialization and behavior. By critiquing gender roles and encouraging individuals to question and reject limiting stereotypes, it has paved the way for more inclusive and diverse understandings of gender. However, the push for gender equality has also resulted in some overcorrections, where certain behaviors or traits associated with one gender are stigmatized. Balancing the rejection of harmful stereotypes with an appreciation for genuine differences in socialization and behavior is a ongoing challenge.
The future generations and evolving perspectives
As society continues to evolve, the influence of second wave feminism will shape future generations' perspectives on gender. The ongoing conversations regarding gender identity, gender roles, and gender equality indicate that these discussions are far from settled. It will be important for future generations to critically engage with these ideas, challenging harmful stereotypes while also recognizing the role of biology and individual differences. The impact of second wave feminism will continue to be felt as society navigates these complex issues.
Corinna and Nina answer your important questions, such as: what is a feminist? Should we be cheerful instead of angry? Who cuts our hair? Boxers or briefs? Is “cis” a slur? We also discuss the TERF-Tranny spectrum; our origins in a state fair livestock exhibit; the social benefits of taboos; Republicans' ability to eff up a sure thing; how social contagions are a force of nature; The Law of Conservation of Evil; iatrogenic infantilization; masculinized women; how 2nd-Wave Feminism is like broccoli; and Corinna’s plans to start microdosing testosterone. It’s truly a broad-ranging conversation, as we cover more territory than a costumed llama!
