Haviv Rettig Gur: 'Hamas Is Upset That the Death Toll in Gaza Isn’t Higher' (18 Questions, 40 Israeli Thinkers)
Oct 15, 2024
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Haviv Rettig Gur, a prominent journalist and political analyst from the Times of Israel, shares his deep insights into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He discusses the ongoing war and its devastating impact on Gaza's future, arguing that until Hamas is defeated, recovery is impossible. Gur critiques Western media coverage, emphasizing the need for a nuanced understanding of the situation. He also examines the complex balance between Judaism and democracy in Israel, advocating for equitable treatment of all citizens and the significance of community responsibility.
The lack of trust between Jews and Palestinians significantly hinders the viability of a one-state solution amid ongoing regional tensions.
Despite the humanitarian crisis, many Israelis view their willingness to confront Hamas directly as a crucial test of national resolve and strength.
Understanding the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict requires media to engage deeply with historical context rather than present surface-level narratives.
Deep dives
The One-State Solution's Challenges
A one-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict faces substantial barriers rooted in deep-seated mistrust. The historical context highlights why both groups, the Jews and Palestinians, struggle to see the other as a partner in governance. Given the Jewish people's history of persecution and the Palestinian perspective shaped by conflict, a unified state lacks the essential trust necessary for coexistence. Without a foundation of mutual respect and security, advocating for a singular state appears impractical and naïve.
Strength Amidst Anxiety
Despite the ongoing challenges, there is a profound sense of strength among Israelis, who now represent the most secure generation of Jews in history. This strength emerges from the hardships endured by ancestors who fought for Jewish survival and the ability to stand firm in the face of existential threats. Yet, there is an undercurrent of anxiety as many Israelis grapple with political divisions and distrust in leadership, which complicates the sense of unity needed during crises. This internal schism poses the real threat to Israeli society, demanding an urgent need for consolidated national identity and purpose.
Success and Strategy in Conflict
The perception of Israel's greatest failure in its conflict with Hamas contrasts with an emerging viewpoint that views the situation as a test of resolve and strategic depth. While observers lament the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, some argue that the willingness to confront Hamas on its terms is a crucial success for Israel. The crucial shift in Israeli public sentiment reflects a readiness to endure sacrifices to eliminate the threat of Hamas, irrespective of international condemnation. The ability to fight on Hamas’s battlefield serves as a demonstration of resilience, presenting an opportunity for Israel to redefine its approach to regional adversaries.
The Role of Western Media
Western media coverage of the Israeli-Hamas conflict is often seen as lacking a comprehensive understanding of the historical and geopolitical factors at play. Journalistic narratives frequently emphasize moral ambiguities without exploring the complexities of motivations behind actions taken by both Israelis and Palestinians. This limited perspective can lead to oversimplified portrayals that fail to capture the multifaceted nature of the conflict. A deeper engagement with the historical context and motivations of all actors involved is essential for media to provide insightful analysis rather than surface-level reporting.
Future Relations and Reconciliation
The path forward for Israel in its relations with Palestinians hinges on the need for reconciliation and addressing fundamental grievances. Both populations must work towards overcoming historic animosities while recognizing mutual needs and aspirations. Any sustainable resolution requires dismantling radical elements like Hamas, which stand as barriers to meaningful dialogue and development. Fostering a political atmosphere where coexistence flourishes will involve systematic efforts to build trust and shared future visions, establishing peace for generations to come.
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Until Hamas is gone, Haviv Rettig Gur says, Gaza will be unable to recover after the war.
The Times of Israel journalist and political analyst has emerged as a leading voice for the Israeli public and the Jewish world for deeper understandings of the war's developments. Haviv has covered Israeli politics — domestic and foreign — for nearly two decades and speaks internationally about Zionism, the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict, and Israel's future.
Haviv was previously the director of communications for the Jewish Agency for Israel, and currently teaches history and politics at Israeli premilitary academies.
Now, he joins us to answer 18 questions on Israel, including the country's leadership, Western media, and the Palestinian future.
Here are our 18 questions:
As an Israeli, and as a Jew, how are you feeling at this moment in Israeli history?
What has been Israel’s greatest success and greatest mistake in its war against Hamas?
Do you think Western media covers the Israel-Hamas War fairly?
What do you look for in deciding which Knesset party to vote for?
Which is more important for Israel: Judaism or democracy?
What role should the Israeli government have in religious matters?
Should Israel treat its Jewish and non-Jewish citizens the same?
Now that Israel already exists, what is the purpose of Zionism?
Is opposing Zionism inherently antisemitic?
Is the IDF the world’s most moral army?
If you were making the case for Israel, where would you begin?
Can questioning the actions of Israel’s government and army — such as in the context of this war — be a valid form of love and patriotism?
What do you think is the most legitimate criticism leveled against Israel today?
Do you think peace between Israelis and Palestinians will happen within your lifetime?
What should happen with Gaza and the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict after the war?
Where do you read news about Israel?
Where do you identify on Israel’s political and religious spectrum, and do you have friends on the “other side”?
Do you have more hope or fear for Israel and the Jewish People?