Undaunted.Life: A Man's Podcast by Kyle Thompson IRON & ASH with MATT CHANDLER & ADAM SMITH (Ep. 854)
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Dec 18, 2025 
In this engaging conversation, Matt Chandler, a senior pastor and notable evangelical leader, teams up with Adam Smith, co-founder of The Forging Table. They share gripping insights on faith and cultural engagement, debating young vs. old earth theories from Genesis. Matt opens up about his public controversy and the impactful humility it brought, while they explore how jiu-jitsu serves as a unique avenue for discipleship. Expect humorous banter on hunting and favorite films, all wrapped around the theme of forging strong, convictional men.
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Be Intentional About Sun And Vitamin D
- Don't treat sunscreen debate as binary; be intentional about sun exposure and vitamin D.
- Spend time outdoors responsibly instead of relying solely on indoor life and pills.
Nephilim, Giants, And Goliath
- Matt summarizes Nephilim lore as demons mating with human women producing giants like the Nephilim.
- He notes scholars link giants of Gath (like Goliath) to that tradition and estimates ancient heights around seven feet.
Genesis' 'In The Beginning' May Be Indeterminate
- 'In the beginning' (reshet) can denote an indeterminate span, not a strict scientific timeline.
- Matt and Kyle prefer not to let debates over earth age distract from core gospel mission.