The Jordan Harbinger Show

494: Rutger Bregman | Humankind: A Hopeful History

Apr 13, 2021
Rutger Bregman is a historian and author of the New York Times bestseller "Humankind: A Hopeful History." He discusses how crises can reveal humanity's best qualities, contrasting popular beliefs about selfishness. Citing examples like the London Blitz and a real-life survival story reminiscent of 'Lord of the Flies,' he argues for a more optimistic view of human nature. Bregman also explores the impact of isolation during crises, the importance of empathy, and how exposure to diversity can combat negative biases.
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ANECDOTE

The London Blitz

  • During World War II, the London Blitz brought out unexpected resilience and altruism in the face of bombing.
  • This behavior, initially attributed to "British culture," was later observed in other crises, revealing a fundamental human tendency.
ANECDOTE

Bombing of Serbia

  • During the NATO bombing of Serbia, many people found unexpected community and connection.
  • Despite the fear and disruption, they described it as a positive time of family unity and shared experience.
INSIGHT

Disasters and Cooperation

  • Disaster movies often depict panic and looting, but real-world studies show a different story.
  • Crises often trigger widespread cooperation and altruism, defying the "thin veneer of civilization" theory.
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