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Professor of Religion Diana Pasulka discusses Jung, Heidegger, and the recent UFO hearings

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-Karl Friston podcast (most important TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M

-Thomas Campbell on TOE: https://youtu.be/kko-hVA-8IU is part 1 and part 2 is also on the channel.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:24 Diana's journey from "atheist" ⇒ "agnostic" (with respect to the phenomenon)

00:07:17 Nuns who saw orbs, every night, then prayed...

00:11:45 What are "beliefs"?

00:12:27 Atheists who believe in God

00:19:50 Spiritual vs Religious (and the Secularization thesis)

00:22:58 UFOs (or the belief in) are like a religion

00:29:37 Psychedelics and religion

00:37:01 Getting flack because of covering the phenomenon

00:39:42 To the skeptics: it's rational to believe in UFOs

00:47:38 Atheism is NOT like a religion, though it can be dogmatic

00:49:18 It's false to say "religions tell you what to think"

00:55:03 The case for dogma

01:01:06 Heidegger on technology not being just another tool

01:06:04 Heidegger and Jacques Vallée

01:10:03 Why do those who study the phenomenon tend to be Catholic?

01:13:49 How the Vatican views UFOs

01:15:12 Are religious stories interpreting UFOs, or are we interpreting UFOs materialistically?

01:20:05 Near Death Experiences, UFOs, and Dean Radin

01:22:35 How the CIA / DOD / etc. work (the nefarious strategies)

01:26:57 What Diana uncovered, that she shouldn't have

01:29:45 Roswell and the Promethean myth

01:31:10 The dangers (and reality) of CE5

01:33:48 Bob Lazar is considered credible by many, behind the scenes

01:36:02 Protecting yourself against disinformation

01:38:08 Academic Openness vs. Governmental Closedness

01:42:39 SpaceX, and writing in Latin for "them"

01:48:18 The president is a "short timer" (this is why he / she isn't told the truth)

01:49:02 Who is Tyler? Why is he significant?

01:50:48 Does the gov't believe they understand what's behind UFOs?

01:52:01 We're dealing with MULTIPLE phenomenon, not just one

01:52:51 Biblically accurate angels

01:55:26 Physical evidence pertaining to purgatory

01:57:36 What's the point in collocating UFOs with religion?

02:02:10 Who is the modern Heidegger?

02:05:21 Jung and UFOs

02:08:00 Plato's Cave and the view that certain people have shackled us

02:12:54 Sangha as The Answer to deception

02:18:46 Rediscovering meaning, Heidegger, Weinstein, and the TOE project

02:22:09 Experiential vs Analytical approach to understanding God

02:24:52 Lovecraft, and the perils of an "open mind"

02:27:14 Epistermic Shock vs Ontological Shock

02:38:10 The importance of Sangha

02:41:21 [Juliano Vargas] Reconciling religion with ET (and does ET believe in a Supreme Creator?)

02:42:15 [Numb Her Two] How has Diana's faith been affected?

02:44:27 Why does the Hitchhiker effect occur?

02:45:32 Angels... Demons... What is the THIRD (religiously interpreted) option?

02:46:45 Rosicrucianism and Gnosticism

02:50:52 Kurzweil's Singularity / Omega Point / UAPs

02:55:14 Jung and the UFO archetype (continued)

02:56:10 UFO hearings (May 2022)

03:00:23 [Tupacabra] Catholic Church, Remote Viewing, Thomas Campbell, and Jacques Vallée

03:05:54 Podcasts being sanctioned behind the scenes for disclosure #DisTOEsure

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